New web page
bmarkus last edited by bmarkus
Now this topic reminds me how our politicians are doing. If there is an issue what they can't or don't want to solve, they pick up something totally different which will be in the focus of discussions and they hope original issue will be forgotten.
Go back to the core business. It is mid February and I do not see that LoPy will ever become a stable product which can be used in a production environment. Original Kickstarter promisses are not met, please PyCom go back and read it. Communication on WEB site was misleading (was because I can't read it now) suggesting the buyers will get a ready product but what they are getting is even not suitable for DIY projects, see comments on the Forum. Actually I feel every minutes spent here a wasted time.
Dear PyCom staff, this new WEB site is not about different taste. Simply it is bad. OK, it happenes. Just roll back to the old version (hope rollback procedure was part of the change), leave it and do coding, testing, coding, testing and document in between.
Only one change would be needed. Tell visitors it is a leading edge, unique board UNDER DEVLOPMENT wich can be updated at later time with production firmware.
@Fred, so instead of being inspired by a company that clearly takes care of every single detail, such as Apple, you designed your website to prove that half baked works are the rule, like your current firmware. Try to open the website in different screens and in different browsers, and it will be from less usable to completely useless (Internet Explorer). Plus all the user experience and graphic design issues it has. Didn’t you realize them before rushing the switch?
@bmarkus it’s right. It really doesn’t look serious at all… how do you expect to do serious business deals with it? Even skateboard websites look more professional. It looks to me that you tried to be “cool” and not mainstream the way hipster kids do. But hipster kids don’t realize that being hipster actually became mainstream a long time ago.
Professionalism is another important word in the business world, and your website shows the oposite. It’s all about respect. As I previously said, I showed your new site to my coworkers, and the Pycom name lost their respect.
@Erica-Galindo As Jose rightfully points out, that is a famous Banksy mural. There are 2 on the Home page. In terms of "lawsuits", all the images have been carefully checked and any usage rights paid for. In fact Banksy does not Trademark his work as his famous quote is: "Copyright is for losers". Thanks Fred
Great comments and glad to see some strong opinions amongst the community :)
Lets all agree that we will never please everybody... thats why we all buy different stuff and a website is pretty much about establishing a unique identity.
Interestingly enough we had started with another web page style and guess what... it ended up looking like another bland Apple Home Page design. How boring was that... huhhh!
So the fact is that we are different and that's part of our DNA.
Clearly work in progress and we will refine over time. I think some of the navigation flow needs to be addressed to ensure our developers can find content easily... but again, thats just my 'personal' opinion. We will look at the 'technical' issues raised and ensure we get those addressed.
bmarkus last edited by
The new page looks like designed by a 10 years old for other 10 years old for game. It is not in line to the PyCom message being a leading Hi Tech IoT vendor. If I see such page its message is 'Im not serious, you are not my target, go away'. And in fact, I leave.
It is terrible :(
livius last edited by
Please maintain an appropriate level of conversation ;-)
back to the topic - first page is for me "good" but as button table
and after clicking link we should go to something different layout
i suppose that it have fresh view and is not boring page
but using it as layout for content was mistake and should be changed
jmarcelino last edited by jmarcelino
That's from a well known Banksy graffiti: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/dec/11/banksy-uses-steve-jobs-artwork-to-highlight-refugee-crisis
and speaking about bad taste maybe you should look at the tone of your messages ...
IS THAT STEVE JOBS IN THE BACKGROUND CORNER???????
What the actual.........!@##@
I think not only he must be dying from cancer all over again for being posted as part of the pycom's web page, but i'm pretty sure that using his image like this can end up in a law suit.
Who created this abomination ??
@jmarcelino, to continue with the idea of different does not mean better, I introduce the Fiat Multipla:
I have show the new page of Pycom to some colleagues, and its answer has been: "WT ..., are these guys serious?"
@craig: good selection of bad taste;)
jmarcelino last edited by
Funny you say lingscars.com which are based very near me - and their bizarre web page and marketing strategy does seem to bring them a lot of business.
Maybe it's not that bad to be a little different.
craig last edited by
I'll recommend the new pycom site for the next version of Web Pages That Suck
@jmarcelino, what about @erica-galindo comments about user experience? For me it is completely from amateurs the fact that the menu changes order in each page, or that the menu can not be seen completely depending on your resolution of the screen.
I completely agree with @erica-galindo and I think they should hire a graphic designer, whether it be part time, to guide them in how to make a cool website.
I think they can make the page look different from the typical web pages, but they should do it with good taste. Anyone enters this page and does not know if it is on the homepage of a company that sells skateboards, or a company that aims to pioneer in the world of IoT. The brand is not clear at all.
In the business world seriousness is important, and the new Pycom page makes it very difficult for me to showcase their products within my company and convince my boss to use their equipment in our upcoming designs. Skateboards websites are more serious than this.
If you are not going to hire a graphic designer, you should at least read some books about graphic design and user experience. A web page should not be artistically impressing, it should be useful and easily understandable. If the last part is missing, you have failed at the most basic thing.
I understand that the design is a thing of personal taste, but the technical errors are all over the place. You just found one....at first sight.
I can give you technical errors that no proper designer will let pass, unreadable text, bad color selection for the text/background combination, the menu changes order every time you change the page, the menu changes form, and the whole menu is part of the background.
This is just like all of the other products they provide, totally incomplete, half way done, must be release asap thing. we will fix bugs later.
I'm really sorry @livius for taking it on you, not your fault at all, i just got mad by the comment.
@jmarcelino, if you want i can give you huge list of web pages that are not "boring cookie butters" but are developed the proper way. Again this has nothing to do with the design (although i must admit i find it terrible for a technology company) it has to do with the UX, half done jobs.
Instead of dedicating time to a new webpage (that was not needed), putting extra effort on the HUGE list of things that where promised and not done yet would be really cool for a change.
livius last edited by
i do not do much playing with this page only go to forum by link
previously i must go to menu which was sometimes not responsive.
At first look it looks ok to me as first page manu bars.
But after your post i try to use more things then only clicking on forum link and to my surprise
i see that this is not only first page button table only it is layout for other content
which is totally wrong
jmarcelino last edited by
LOL, jeez nothing like making comments on a design to elicit some strong opinions!
At least it's different from the technically perfect, responsive etc but boring cookie cutter websites that populate the web these days. What can I say, I miss the old days when everyone was experimenting with the web medium.
Design aside and talking about under construction, Pycom should really finish the copy on the website... looking at the ambassadors page I see "he’s responsible for INSERT REMIT.".. and other missing things all over.
As a part time graphics designer let me tell you that i can see that you don't understand a single thing about creating a web page. This new page is completely wrong and it proves that Pycom is just trying to do things that they got have the slightest idea about.
Not only the design is hideous in all aspects of esthetics but also has several technical errors. For example, the web page is not responsive and looks terrible in different sizes of the browser, content moves around from page to page and the menu order changes all the time. And don't get me even started with the images on the site.
The web page is so hard to use and kills the whole user experience. I understand that some companies want to change the way they look and "look cool", but this web page reminds me of my dad getting a dragon tattoo at age 64, "It's not cool"
Regarding the design it makes aliasing effects all over the place, text is hard to read and scroll moves in a weird way over the top of the page. I would recommend that the next time Pycom hires a graphic designer and avoid doing the things themselves, this is not something that should be done with the spirit of "homemade", this is a company web site. It's so hard to find the documentation now and the webshop it's too hard to use. (And this should be the main objective for any company, get people as easy and fast to the shop as you can!), this page fails even at that.
There is a lot a lot more to go around, i was enjoining my Pycom experience, and never posted on the forum since all my questions where already answered. But this demanded for my comment.
Please look at the webpage in detail before giving comments about it. I don't know who this got approved and released