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    • J Offline
      jcaron
      last edited by jcaron

      Hi all,

      Edited 2017-08-06 with new Pysense data
      Edited 2017-08-22 with new Pysense wake on pin info
      Edited 2017-09-06 with Deep Sleep Shield current consumption feedback, 3V3 input
      Edited 2017-09-12 to clarify that deep sleep current is from battery, not USB

      Here is my current understanding the situation regarding the various deep sleep modes.

      Current estimates are based on the setup being powered from a battery, not over USB (this will result in noticeably higher currents).

      Battery life estimates are based on a 2500 mAh battery, but do not take into account power drawn during the "wake" periods, which depends on what you do, and how often you do it, nor power drawn by any sensor.

      • WiPy 2.0, LoPy 1.0 and SiPy 1.0, using expansion board, without Deep Sleep Shield

        • use machine.deepsleep()
        • wake on timer: Yes
        • wake on pin: Yes
        • pins: P2, P3, P4, P6, P8 to P10 and P13 to P23.
        • ESP32 powered during deep sleep (including ULP and RTC): Yes (in deep sleep mode)
        • deep sleep current: > 12 mA (bad) [±1 week?] due to DC-DC switching regulator (10 mA) and flash (2 mA)
        • -> Option 1: provide regulated 3.3V via 3V3 input -> lowers current to ±2 mA [±1 month] there is some controversy on this point, it could actually damage the board
        • -> Option 2: use Deep Sleep Shield, Pytrack or Pysense
      • Using Deep Sleep Shield

        • use Deep Sleep library
        • wake on timer: Yes
        • wake on pin: Yes
        • pins: P10, P17, P18
        • ESP32 powered during deep sleep (including ULP and RTC): No
        • deep sleep current: ±7-10 µA (good) [years?]
        • deep sleep current: ±500-620 µA [months?]. Waiting for Pycom for reason/fix.
      • Using Pysense

        • use Pysense library
        • wake on timer: Yes
        • wake on pin: Yes, but requires patched Pysense firmware and librairies and cutting one pin, see https://forum.pycom.io/topic/1673/pysense-pinout-wake-on-pin/16
        • pins: EXT_IO1 (pin 6 on the External I/O header) only
        • ESP32 powered during deep sleep (including ULP and RTC): No
        • deep sleep current: ± 12 µA (good) [years?] with updated Pysense library
      • Using Pytrack

        • use Pytrack library
        • wake on timer: Yes
        • wake on pin: Same as Pysense?
        • pins: Same as Pysense?
        • ESP32 powered during deep sleep (including ULP and RTC): No
        • deep sleep current: ± 20 µA (good) [years?]
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      • RobTuDelftR Offline
        RobTuDelft
        last edited by

        Nice summary and this topic indeed deserves some clarification/overview.

        Without deep sleep shield I think the device will only run for a day or so. At least that is my experience. It also depends on the devices you connect of course, because they stay powered in deep sleep.

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          PeterBaugh
          last edited by

          Hi There,

          How are you measuring the current in deep sleep? Also do you know of a way of keeping a PIN or PINs high when going into deepsleep, I dont think this is possible because of the board reseting when coming out of deep sleep.

          Thanks

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            Emmanuel Goudot
            last edited by

            For Pytrack, could include (if I am right)

            • GPS/Accel powered during deep sleep: No (explain low 20µA deep sleep current)

            For Pysense, something is obviously powerd which consume 2.5mA, but as electric schematics is not avail, it is difficult to say...

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              jmarcelino @Emmanuel Goudot
              last edited by

              @Emmanuel-Goudot
              The Pysense problem was fixed yesterday https://forum.pycom.io/post/10039

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                joshberry
                last edited by

                Great summary. I agree with @RobTuDelft: many people and projects are waiting on this to settle so some definitive conclusion from pycom would be great. They're doing such a great job but we need to know what they've done or what they're working on.

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                  iotmaker
                  last edited by

                  Still the current with the sipy is 89mA

                  just doing this

                  from deepsleep import DeepSleep
                  import pycom
                  
                  
                  pycom.heartbeat(False)
                  
                  
                  ds = DeepSleep()
                  
                  while True:
                  
                      ds.go_to_sleep(60)  # go to sleep for 60 seconds
                      print("Woke up")
                  
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                    iotmaker @iotmaker
                    last edited by iotmaker

                    @iotmaker

                    Well turns out that if you put it backwards like the Official documentation

                    https://docs.pycom.io/chapter/datasheets/downloads/deepsleep-pinout.pdf

                    you will fry it..

                    i put the other shield for my other sipy the correct way and now it works. 620uA

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                      dClaus @iotmaker
                      last edited by

                      @iotmaker See this post for the correct orientation of the deep sleep schield

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                        PeterBaugh @iotmaker
                        last edited by

                        @iotmaker How are you measuring the current?

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                          iotmaker @PeterBaugh
                          last edited by

                          @PeterBaugh From the battery positive lead in series to the VIn of the expansion board

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                            Colateral
                            last edited by

                            Hello,

                            I'm using LopY with Expansion board. SW upgraded to ver 1.7.8.b1

                            I tried deepsleep functionality simple as below.

                            import machine
                            machine.pin_deepsleep_wakeup(['P18', 'P15'],machine.WAKEUP_ALL_LOW, True)
                            machine.deepsleep(15*1000)
                            print("\n\n Wakeup",  machine.wake_reason())
                            

                            The board is going to sleep and indeed is waking up on P18 dumping the following output .

                            rst:0x5 (DEEPSLEEP_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
                            configsip: 0, SPIWP:0xee
                            clk_drv:0x00,q_drv:0x00,d_drv:0x00,cs0_drv:0x00,hd_drv:0x00,wp_drv:0x00
                            mode:DIO, clock div:1
                            load:0x3fff9010,len:12
                            ho 0 tail 12 room 4
                            load:0x3fff9020,len:388
                            load:0x40078000,len:11584
                            load:0x4009fc00,len:848
                            entry 0x4009fd9c
                            

                            ** I don't understand why the LoPy was reset after this wakeup **

                            In order to dump the reason, I also added in main.py the following

                            print("\n\n Wakeup main reason",  machine.wake_reason())
                            

                            and has no output

                            Wakeup main reason (1, []) 
                            

                            ** I believe there is bug that no GPIO is mentioned in that list **

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                              jcaron @Colateral
                              last edited by

                              @Colateral wake from deep sleep is actually similar to a reset: as the CPU and its RAM are not powered during deep sleep, you can't just resume at the next Python instruction, as it restarts from scratch.

                              Differentiating a wake up from deep sleep from other reasons (regular power on, reset...) is still a bit difficult, the subject has already been discussed in other threads.

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                                Colateral @jcaron
                                last edited by

                                @jcaron Thank you.

                                Yes, in the meanwhile I read dozens of posts. The question is why after reset I don't get the GPIO pin that triggered the wakeup?

                                Do the deepsleep shield fixing this GPIO wake up cause bug?
                                Actually, If the Lopy is working fine with this reset what else is enhancing the deepsleep shield?

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                                  rloro338 @iotmaker
                                  last edited by

                                  @iotmaker I am measuring the same power comsumption ... 620 uA with expansion board and 520 uA without it.

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                                    iotmaker @rloro338
                                    last edited by

                                    @rloro338 said in Deep Sleep Summary:

                                    @iotmaker I am measuring the same power comsumption ... 620 uA with expansion board and 520 uA without it.

                                    I am glad i am not the only one.. I just took another sipy updated firmware and deepsleep library and same issue 520uA really far from 7 or 10 ua

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                                      jcaron
                                      last edited by

                                      @iotmaker @rloro338 Updated the summary with the current draw reported with the Deep Sleep Shield.

                                      Also added that powering via 3V3 may not be a solution, and that wake on pin with the Pysense is not trivial.

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                                        dmayorquin
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi, I have a SiPy + Pysense + 3.7 V LiPo battery. I'm testing Deep sleep mode from Pysense library but the multimeter is not showing 12 µA current consumption.

                                        SiPy firmware: 1.18.0
                                        Pysense firmware: 0.0.8

                                        My program disabled WiFi in boot.py. In main.py I blink an LED for 5 seconds and then go to sleep. These are my results:

                                        Blinking: ~50 mA
                                        Deep sleep: ~2.2 mA

                                        main.py code:

                                        from pysense import Pysense
                                        import pycom
                                        import time
                                        
                                        py = Pysense()
                                        
                                        #Turn-of heartbeat
                                        if pycom.heartbeat() == True:
                                            pycom.heartbeat(False)
                                        
                                        for i in range(5):
                                            pycom.rgbled(0x1F)
                                            time.sleep(0.05)
                                            pycom.rgbled(0x00)
                                            time.sleep(1)
                                        
                                        #Sleep 20 seconds
                                        py.setup_sleep(20)
                                        py.go_to_sleep()
                                        

                                        Is there any piece of code I'm missing? What are you doing to get 12 µA with the Pysense board?

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                                          jcaron @dmayorquin
                                          last edited by

                                          @dmayorquin never tried with a SiPy, only a LoPy, but the end result should be the same as the PySense will completely switch off the module.

                                          The usual culprit is powering through USB, but if I understand correctly your setup, this is not the case. You are connecting the battery directly to the JST-PH connector on the Pysense, right?

                                          Do you have anything else connected? Do you have an SD card in the slot? You haven’t setup any of the sensors to remain awake (like accelerometer wake up)?

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                                            dmayorquin @jcaron
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi @jcaron , thanks for your fast answer. Yes, I'm connecting the battery directly to the JST connector on the Pysense and I'm not using any sensor or SD card. In boot.py I disable WiFi:

                                            from network import WLAN
                                            
                                            wlan = WLAN()
                                            wlan.deinit()
                                            

                                            And main.py code is exactly as It's shown in my previous reply. I'm going to try with other releases of SiPy firmware. If you have any suggestion please let me know.

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