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    New firmware release 1.4.0.b1

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      daniel
      last edited by

      Hello,

      The release is live :-), feel free to download it now. Thanks!

      https://www.pycom.io/support/supportdownloads/#firmware

      Cheers,
      Daniel

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        borjam
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        Great! I´'ve just updated one of my LoPys adn it seems to be working fine.

        However, I have a suggestion: It would be much better if wireless interfaces (LoRa, WiFi, Bluetooth, and whatever you add in the future) were in a well known disabled state by default upon power up.

        It's a bit clumsy to be required to do this just in order to get stuff running:

        from network import WLAN
        from network import Bluetooth
        wlan = WLAN()
        wlan.deinit()
        bt = Bluetooth()
        bt.deinit()

        Moreover, if in the future you add another network interface (like the planned GyPy, it will be mandatory to add proper "deinit()" commands even if not planning to use the new interface, which will hurt upwards compatibility.

        What happens when deinit() is called, by the way? Does the call to the intialization methods consume memory that I presume won't be released when calling deinit()?

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          borjam
          last edited by borjam

          I mean something like this (I've used the equal sign for the system prompt in order to avoid generating mark-up text formatting)

          = import gc
          = gc.mem_free()
          31856
          = from network import WLAN
          = from network import Bluetooth
          = gc.mem_free()
          31536
          = wlan=WLAN()
          = gc.mem_free()
          31376
          = bt=Bluetooth()
          BTDM CONTROLLER VERSION: 010101
          btip start
          copy .data from 4000d890 to 3ffae6e0, len 00001830
          set .bss 0x0 from 3ffb8000 to 3ffbff70, len 00007f70
          BTDM ROM VERSION 0101
          BD_ADDR: 24:0A:C4:00:BD:CA
          NVDS MAGIC FAILED
          RF Init OK with coex
          = gc.mem_free()
          31152
          = wlan.deinit()
          = gc.mem_free()
          30992
          = bt.deinit()
          = gc.mem_free()
          30832

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            jmarcelino
            last edited by

            I'm also a bit stumped by how to turn off wifi.

            If try a simple script:

            from network import WLAN
            import time
            import pycom
            
            pycom.heartbeat(False)
            wlan = WLAN(mode=WLAN.STA)
            wlan.deinit()
            
            while True:
                pycom.rgbled( 0x00ff00)
                time.sleep(0.1)
                pycom.rgbled( 0)
                time.sleep(9.9)
            

            I see no decrease in current at all.

            If I remove the wlan.deinit() the new power saving mode kicks in and I do see it switching from about 60mA to 140mA (@3.3V). I can't see how to turn it off. Thanks!

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              daniel @borjam
              last edited by

              @borjam memory from Bluetooth is not released when is not in use. This is something that we are looking to implement as it is very important.

              @jmarcelino we are aware of this and we are checking with Espressif.

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                borjam
                last edited by

                Thanks @daniel. Being able to properly disable network interfaces you don't intend to use is really critical.

                Not only for power reasons, but in order to avoid conditions in which a "stray" network device with a life of its own (after all both have reasonably complex associated software stacks) can lead to some nefarious behavior due to environmental circumstances.

                An example: imagine that you have deployed LoPys as some kind of embedded sensors. You are using LoRa, not WiFi nor Bluetooth. Now, some device with a buggy Bluetooth or WiFi stack moves close, or it doesn't have a buggy implementation but, nevertheless, something happens that triggers a bug in the LoPy's stack. So, the WiFi or Bluetooth goes mad and something Bad™ happens.

                Of course it could be an intentional attacker as well.

                It would be nice to tell the Espressif guys that "off must be off" and the relevant silicon must be really powered off with no possibility of zombie behavior ;)

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                  PeterBaugh @jmarcelino
                  last edited by

                  @jmarcelino Out of interest how are you measuring the power consumption of your device?

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                    constantinos
                    last edited by

                    Can you give us more explanation for machine.idle and sleep modes?

                    Thanks

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                      jmarcelino
                      last edited by jmarcelino

                      So there's the small caveat that disabled doesn't mean 'turn off' the interface :-) Thanks for the clarification! The STA power savings are very good news though, can save a lot of battery with almost no effort.

                      By the way I found that if I do:

                      from network import WLAN
                      wlan = WLAN(mode=WLAN.STA)
                      

                      power saving is enabled, but if I use this instead it doesn't:

                      from network import WLAN
                      wlan = WLAN()
                      wl.mode(WLAN.STA)
                      

                      @PeterBaugh: Just looking at my power supply reading at the moment. I also use a coulomb counter (LTC4150) for consumption over time (without needing to do integration) I'm hoping to do a blog post on this soon.

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                        daniel @jmarcelino
                        last edited by

                        @jmarcelino

                        from network import WLAN
                        wlan = WLAN()
                        wl.mode(WLAN.STA)

                        If that's the case that's an issue. We'll check. Thanks!

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                          crankshaft
                          last edited by

                          @daniel Been waiting for this, thanks very much, I am looking now at my power supply which definitely shows the current is down, but fluctuating a lot.

                          But I have a feature request, is it possible to have a machine.sleep(msec) where msec is the number of milliseconds that you want to sleep.

                          This would be really cool, to be able to put it to REAL sleep without interrupts.

                          And on the same subject, are the RTC interrupts on the horizon so that we can achieve the above, only with more code ?

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                            livius @daniel
                            last edited by livius

                            @daniel
                            something is wrong

                            pycom.rgbled(0xff0000)
                            Traceback (most recent call last):
                              File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
                            OSError: the requested operation is not possible
                            
                            >>> os.uname()
                            (sysname='WiPy', nodename='WiPy', release='1.4.0.b1', version='v1.8.6-398-g4a4a81e on 2017-01-20', machine='WiPy with ESP32')
                            

                            think about people first, then computers

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                              daniel
                              last edited by

                              @livius that's being done on purpose, you need to disable the heartbeat first. You can either have the heartbeat enabled or control the LED manually. What are you trying to do?

                              Cheers,
                              Daniel

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                                jmarcelino @livius
                                last edited by jmarcelino

                                @livius
                                I noticed that, but wasn't sure if it's new. You have to disable the heartbeat before using rgbled

                                pycom.heartbeat(False)
                                pycom.rgbled(0x007f00) # green

                                Maybe a little jarring for first time users just trying to blink the led

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                                  livius @daniel
                                  last edited by

                                  @daniel

                                  i have this file from start(3 month ago)

                                  file "wifi_ap.py"
                                  import pycom
                                  print('wifi_ap')
                                  pycom.heartbeat(0)
                                  pycom.heartbeat(1)
                                  pycom.rgbled(0xff0000)
                                  

                                  this worked in all previous version of firmware
                                  now it does not work.
                                  If it should not work previously in that way i can fix this

                                  think about people first, then computers

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                                    jmarcelino @livius
                                    last edited by jmarcelino

                                    @livius
                                    Why is the code turning the heartbeat signal off just to turn it on right after?

                                    If you remove the pycom.heartbeat(1) line it should work.

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                                      livius @jmarcelino
                                      last edited by livius

                                      @jmarcelino
                                      file 3 month ago and i suppose copy paste from doc or forum
                                      but why i can not change color of led when it is on?

                                      and i disable default blink of led which is after normal boot(firmware blink)

                                      think about people first, then computers

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                                        livius
                                        last edited by livius

                                        but something is wrong try this:

                                        1. 
                                        pycom.heartbeat(0) #disable
                                        pycom.rgbled(0xff0000) #change color - but this also turn it on
                                        pycom.heartbeat(1) # strange this also disable led
                                        

                                        think about people first, then computers

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                                          jmarcelino @livius
                                          last edited by jmarcelino

                                          @livius
                                          This is how I understand it:

                                          1. heartbeat is a special function associated to the led and needs exclusive access. If it's active (set to 1 or True) you can't override it and the led will just blink periodically in blue.

                                          2. rgbled doesn't just change the colour, it sets the led immediately to the colour you give it. If the colour is anything other than 0 (black) it turns the led on. To turn it off do pycom.rgbled(0)

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                                            livius
                                            last edited by livius

                                            and also problem with i2c
                                            previous code run without any problem but now i got:

                                            I (8388) wifi: connected with livius, channel 9
                                            WLAN connection to the router succeeded!
                                            Traceback (most recent call last):
                                              File "boot.py", line 16, in <module>
                                              File "wifi_sta_router.py", line 65, in <module>
                                              File "bmp180.py", line 48, in __init__
                                            OSError: I2C bus error
                                            

                                            was something changed also in i2c?

                                            @jmarcelino
                                            i can also understand this in that way but what is then purpose about parameter

                                            pycom.heartbeat(1)
                                            pycom.heartbeat(0)
                                            

                                            i can disable it and enable back with the same color as previous?
                                            but pycom.heartbeat(1) also disable it when it was enabled
                                            i suppose that this work as toggle instead on/off

                                            @daniel
                                            also i see that when i send file - size 3201 bytes throught wifi
                                            it is somehow broken inside - it is transmitted as 3201 but some lines are wrong when i download it back throught wifi
                                            e.g.
                                            oryginal file

                                            		ileTemp180=0
                                            	if (prevCisnienie180!=cisnienie180):
                                            		prevCisnienie180=cisnienie180
                                            		s.send('{"U":"' + UID + 'C180' + '", "V":[[' + str(cisnienie180)+','+str(ileCisnienie180) +']]}\n')
                                            		ileCisnienie180=0
                                            
                                            	time.sleep(1)
                                            

                                            and after download back:

                                            		ileTemp180=0
                                            	if (pr180) +']]}\n')
                                            		ileCisnienie180=0
                                            
                                            	time.sleep(1)
                                            

                                            UPDATE
                                            i see that problem with i2c was only because this crash(trash) in file not i2c itself (i suppose)
                                            when i send this file e.g. 20 times (always successfully)
                                            then it was eventually as should be and code work ok also in newest firmware
                                            12 sensors read data throught i2c, one wire, digital and ADC and send it back throught wifi to service on computer and back to database :)

                                            And now i have question - how many times we can write to flash?
                                            What is the write cycle life of that flash?
                                            

                                            UPDATE 2
                                            I supposed that it all was fixed
                                            but after fresh start on early morning it bring me back same error about i2c

                                            WLAN connection to the router succeeded!
                                            Traceback (most recent call last):
                                              File "boot.py", line 16, in <module>
                                              File "wifi_sta_router.py", line 65, in <module>
                                              File "bmp180.py", line 48, in __init__
                                            OSError: I2C bus error
                                            

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