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    • M Offline
      momo232030
      last edited by

      sx1276-board.c, sx1276.h: Fix crash on calling lora.reset() #474

      could somebody merge this please I really need the functionality

      https://github.com/pycom/pycom-micropython-sigfox/pull/474

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      • robert-hhR Offline
        robert-hh @momo232030
        last edited by

        @momo232030 Please publish the device you are using, the firmware version, a minimal code that causes the crash and the crash dump.

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          Gijs @momo232030
          last edited by

          @momo232030 If time is of essence, you are also able to build your own firmware using the lora.reset() branch, as once the feature is merged, it will still not be directly included in a release. The instructions are listed on the GitHub repo

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          • robert-hhR Offline
            robert-hh @Gijs
            last edited by

            @Gijs lora.reset() will not solve the problem of this post, since on ESP rev1 devices like LoPy4 and Fipy lora.reset() is a NOP.
            Code of the reset function:

            void SX1276Reset( void )
            {
                if (micropy_lpwan_use_reset_pin) {
                    // Set RESET pin to 0
                    GpioInit( &SX1276.Reset, RADIO_RESET, PIN_OUTPUT, PIN_PUSH_PULL, PIN_NO_PULL, 0 );
            
                    // Wait 2 ms
                    DelayMs( 2 );
            
                    // Configure RESET as input
                    GpioInit( &SX1276.Reset, RADIO_RESET, PIN_INPUT, PIN_PUSH_PULL, PIN_NO_PULL, 1 );
            
                    // Wait 6 ms
                    DelayMs( 6 );
                } else {
                    DelayMs( 2 );
                }
            }
            

            Code in main.c that affects micropy_lpwan_use_reset_pin:

                if (esp32_get_chip_rev() > 0) {
                    micropy_hw_antenna_diversity_pin_num = MICROPY_SECOND_GEN_ANT_SELECT_PIN_NUM;
            
                    micropy_lpwan_ncs_pin_index = 1;
                    micropy_lpwan_ncs_pin_num = 18;
                    micropy_lpwan_ncs_pin = &pin_GPIO18;
            
                    micropy_lpwan_use_reset_pin = false;
            
                    micropy_lpwan_dio_pin_index = 2;
                    micropy_lpwan_dio_pin_num = 23;
                    micropy_lpwan_dio_pin = &pin_GPIO23;
                } else {
             ..........
            
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            • G Offline
              Gijs
              last edited by

              Im sorry, I sort of understand that the definition of the function issues a NOP in the ESP32, or it will crash (we need the function defined at least). then what does the PR have to do with this?

              @momo232030 I cannot reproduce the module crashing after the lora.join() method multiple times, even after joining was successful and resetting the region. are you sure it is caused by that? Do you update the region before calling joinFrequency?

              Best,
              Gijs

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                momo232030
                last edited by

                this is my code every time i switch to another region the lopy 4 the device freezes.

                import ubinascii
                import pycom
                import socket
                import time
                from network import LoRa
                
                # Colors
                off = 0x000000
                red = 0x7f0000
                green = 0x007f00
                blue = 0x00007f
                
                # Turn off hearbeat LED
                pycom.heartbeat(False)
                
                print("start 868")
                
                # Initialize LoRaWAN radio
                lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORAWAN, region=LoRa.EU868)
                dev_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('AAAAAAAAAAAAA868')
                app_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('70B3D57ED003039C')
                app_key = ubinascii.unhexlify('2B7E151628AED2A6ABF7158809CF4F3C')
                
                lora.join(activation=LoRa.OTAA, auth=(dev_eui, app_eui, app_key), timeout=0)
                count = 0
                while not lora.has_joined():
                    time.sleep(2.5)
                    print('Not yet joined...({})'.format(count))
                    count += 1
                    if count > 5:
                        break;
                
                if lora.has_joined():
                    print("joined 868")
                
                print("start 915")
                # Initialize LoRaWAN radio
                lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORAWAN, region=LoRa.US915)
                for index in range(0, 7):
                    lora.remove_channel(index)
                
                for index in range(16, 72):
                    lora.remove_channel(index)
                lora.add_channel(8, frequency=903900000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(9, frequency=904100000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(10, frequency=904300000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(11, frequency=904500000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(12, frequency=904700000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(13, frequency=904900000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(14, frequency=905100000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(15, frequency=905300000, dr_min=0, dr_max=3)
                lora.add_channel(65, frequency=904600000, dr_min=4, dr_max=4)
                
                # Set network keys
                dev_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('AAAAAAAAAAAAA915')
                app_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('70B3D57ED003039C')
                app_key = ubinascii.unhexlify('2B7E151628AED2A6ABF7158809CF4F3C')
                
                #CRASHES AT THE NEXT LINE
                lora.join(activation=LoRa.OTAA, auth=(dev_eui, app_eui, app_key), timeout=0)
                pycom.rgbled(0x1f0000)
                
                # Loop until joined
                while not lora.has_joined():
                    print('Not OTAA joined yet...')
                    pycom.rgbled(0x1f0000)
                    time.sleep(0.1)
                    pycom.rgbled(off)
                    time.sleep(2.4)
                
                print('OTAA Joined')
                pycom.rgbled(0x00001f)
                
                # create a LoRa socket
                s = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                # set the LoRaWAN data rate
                s.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 3)
                # make the socket non-blocking
                s.setblocking(False)
                # send some data
                s.send(bytes([0x01, 0x02, 0x03]))
                # get any data received...
                data = s.recv(64)
                print(data)
                
                
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                • robert-hhR Offline
                  robert-hh @Gijs
                  last edited by

                  @Gijs The OP has a sample code here: https://github.com/pycom/pycom-micropython-sigfox/pull/474
                  But even with that sample code I do not get a crash. Obviously, the device does not join here at 915 MHz, since I'm in a EU868 region. But no crash so far.

                  P.S.: I run my test devices without antenna, but with a 50 Ohm terminator instead, so they will not create too much interference. For test bench operation the stray radiation from the board and pigtail are still strong enough for testing at a level of about -60dB.

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                  • M Offline
                    momo232030
                    last edited by

                    @Gijs @robert-hh
                    do you reach

                    print("second join")
                    on line 42

                    import ubinascii
                    import pycom
                    import socket
                    import time
                    from network import LoRa
                    
                    # Colors
                    off = 0x000000
                    red = 0x7f0000
                    green = 0x007f00
                    blue = 0x00007f
                    
                    # Turn off hearbeat LED
                    pycom.heartbeat(False)
                    
                    print("start 868")
                    
                    # Initialize LoRaWAN radio
                    lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORAWAN, region=LoRa.EU868)
                    dev_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('AAAAAAAAAAAAA868')
                    app_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('70B3D57ED003039C')
                    app_key = ubinascii.unhexlify('2B7E151628AED2A6ABF7158809CF4F3C')
                    
                    lora.join(activation=LoRa.OTAA, auth=(dev_eui, app_eui, app_key), timeout=0)
                    count = 0
                    while not lora.has_joined():
                        time.sleep(2.5)
                        print('Not yet joined...({})'.format(count))
                        count += 1
                        if count > 5:
                            break;
                    
                    if lora.has_joined():
                        print("joined 868")
                    
                    print("start 915")
                    # Initialize LoRaWAN radio
                    lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORAWAN, region=LoRa.US915)
                    
                    
                    # Set network keys
                    dev_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('AAAAAAAAAAAAA915')
                    app_eui = ubinascii.unhexlify('70B3D57ED003039C')
                    app_key = ubinascii.unhexlify('2B7E151628AED2A6ABF7158809CF4F3C')
                    
                    #CRASHES AT THE NEXT LINE
                    lora.join(activation=LoRa.OTAA, auth=(dev_eui, app_eui, app_key), timeout=0)
                    print("second join")
                    pycom.rgbled(0x1f0000)
                    
                    # Loop until joined
                    while not lora.has_joined():
                        print('Not OTAA joined yet...')
                        pycom.rgbled(0x1f0000)
                        time.sleep(0.1)
                        pycom.rgbled(off)
                        time.sleep(2.4)
                    
                    print('OTAA Joined')
                    pycom.rgbled(0x00001f)
                    
                    # create a LoRa socket
                    s = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                    # set the LoRaWAN data rate
                    s.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 3)
                    # make the socket non-blocking
                    s.setblocking(False)
                    # send some data
                    s.send(bytes([0x01, 0x02, 0x03]))
                    # get any data received...
                    data = s.recv(64)
                    print(data)
                    
                    
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                    • robert-hhR Offline
                      robert-hh @momo232030
                      last edited by

                      @momo232030 Yes. I do. And also the device joins at the first attempt for EU868. Does your device joins at the first run?

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                      • robert-hhR Offline
                        robert-hh @momo232030
                        last edited by

                        @momo232030 However, if it fails the first join, it will print the text "second join", but then it will freeze. It does not even set the rgbled.

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                          Gijs
                          last edited by

                          I had a chat with @momo232030 and it seems time.sleep(60) between the region switch did the trick. I know it has to be 30 seconds at least, did not really optimise it

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                            robert-hh @Gijs
                            last edited by

                            @Gijs That gives a consistent behaviour here of failing join attempts. Which is expected here.
                            What kind of timeout applies?

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                              Gijs
                              last edited by

                              While looking through the source, it seems a task is created for sending Join messages and we never close it if the unit does not join (if timeout=0 is specified).
                              (lines 1960-1980 of modlora.c):

                                  // get the timeout
                                  int32_t timeout = INT32_MAX;
                                  if (args[3].u_obj != mp_const_none) {
                                      timeout = mp_obj_get_int(args[3].u_obj);
                                  }
                              
                                  // send a join request message
                                  cmd_data.info.join.activation = activation;
                                  cmd_data.cmd = E_LORA_CMD_JOIN;
                                  lora_send_cmd(&cmd_data); <--this will change the lora_obj.joined variable
                              
                                  if (timeout > 0) { <-- timeout = 0, so it falls through this conditional
                                      while (!lora_obj.joined && timeout >= 0) {
                                          mp_hal_delay_ms(LORA_JOIN_WAIT_MS);
                                          timeout -= LORA_JOIN_WAIT_MS;
                                      }
                                      if (timeout <= 0) {
                                          nlr_raise(mp_obj_new_exception_msg(&mp_type_TimeoutError, "timed out"));
                                      }
                                  }
                                  return mp_const_none;
                              
                              
                              

                              Im not sure why time.sleep(60) helps here, but it seems to timeout the task and let us create a new LoRa object for a different region

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                              • J Offline
                                jcaron @momo232030
                                last edited by

                                @momo232030 If I understand things correctly, you are trying to write code that will try to join on various frequencies, probably to get a single product that can work in any of those regions without manual configuration, right?

                                Remember that you are not allowed to do this. Transmitting on the 868 MHz band in the US or on the 915 MHz in Europe is in breach of regulations. This would automatically make your device not compliant with local regulations, and not allowed for sale. No FCC marking, no CE marking.

                                You must either provision devices separately for the different markets (i.e. pre-configure them), or provide a way for the user to specify which band to use, or have some means to auto-detect it (e.g. if it connects to Wi-Fi, using an IP-to-country geolocation DB or service, or if it includes a GPS chip, based on coordinates — there may be other options).

                                You most definitely don't want a device which, until it successfully joins, tries alternatively all those different bands.

                                Note in addition that the US band allows much higher power than what is allowed for most ISM bands in the EU region. You don't want to be caught with a device transmitting at full power on the 915 MHz band in Europe (it is used by mobile operators for 3G or 4G).

                                If you think "but mobiles phones do it", remember that they don't send anything first. They always scan passively for available networks, and will only transmit once they have identified a network. LoRa end devices transmit first (gateways don't send beacons or anything similar in the general case).

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                                  momo232030 @jcaron
                                  last edited by

                                  @jcaron I know but i want to test some gateways and want to program the test on a single device so i can switch between frequencies. Its not for an actual product.

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                                    Gijs
                                    last edited by

                                    After some more digging last night and this morning, I found the issue, and why sleeping sometimes solves the problem.

                                    For the ones who are interested:
                                    We xsemaphoreTake() at the beginning of join, but we never return it if the LoRa is not joined, nor do we return the semaphore when the LoRa is re-initalized. Only when the LoRa radio goes to sleep or the LoRa is joined, we xsemaphoreReturn(). I made a quick fix that always returns the semaphore when the LoRa is initalized (in lora_init_helper() at the top).

                                    in esp32/mods/modlora.c:
                                    around line 1100, we take the semaphore in the joining process
                                    a bit above that, we have the Sleep and Wake commands that return the semaphore.
                                    and around line 580, we give the semaphore once the LoRa has joined.

                                    In conclusion, all you need to do is add xSemaphoreGive(xLoRaSigfoxSem); at the top of lora_init_helper() function. Now I feel like this is not the 'proper' solution, but it seem to work in the limited cases I tested..

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                                      robert-hh @Gijs
                                      last edited by

                                      @Gijs said in Alter lora frequency without reset:

                                      but we never return it if the LoRa is not joined

                                      If no timeout is given, when can the device be considered as failing the join. According to what I have seen, it will continue to send join requests until you stop it manually,

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                                        Gijs
                                        last edited by Gijs

                                        @robert-hh said in Alter lora frequency without reset:

                                        If no timeout is given, when can the device be considered as failing the join. According to what I have seen, it will continue to send join requests until you stop it manually,

                                        Indeed, however, I do not know of a way to to stop joining from python currently, only by hard-resetting the device. Also, setting a timeout does not alleviate the issue of the taken semaphore.

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                                          robert-hh @Gijs
                                          last edited by

                                          @Gijs said in Alter lora frequency without reset:

                                          Also, setting a timeout does not alleviate the issue of the taken semaphore.

                                          No, but on timeout the semaphore could be released too.

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