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    LoPy stops detecting BLE advertisements

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      stef @papasmurph
      last edited by

      @papasmurph
      Some BT enhancement have been listed on the official ESP32 board for the last framework version .
      My test with the last ESP Framework in C see no bug for BT detection even with more than 12h of scanning.
      Will flash one of my lopy with 1.7 and report here the result.
      Stéphane A.

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        papasmurph @stef
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        @stef That sounds promising. I'm now testing it continuously.

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          jmarcelino @papasmurph
          last edited by jmarcelino

          @papasmurph
          Yes, BLE scan type has been changed to BLE_SCAN_TYPE_PASSIVE in the latest build which should help with beacons (at the cost of losing the device name for devices which only return it after a SCAN_REQ query from an active scan)

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            papasmurph @jmarcelino
            last edited by papasmurph

            @jmarcelino Sadly, scanning (or detection) still stops though. After an hour or so get_adv stopped returning data, despite there being beacons close by that I hadn't moved. A hard reset got it started again.

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              papasmurph @papasmurph
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              @papasmurph When this happens, neither is it possible to attach to the LoPy's WiFi access point. My code still runs though.

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                Duane Kaufman @papasmurph
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                @papasmurph I think I might have a bad board, as I have not been able to get BLE to see devices I can detect with my phone around me. My code:

                `from network import Bluetooth
                import time
                import binascii

                bluetooth = Bluetooth()
                bluetooth.init()

                bluetooth.start_scan(20) # start scanning with 10s timeout
                while bluetooth.isscanning():
                time.sleep(1)
                adv_list = []
                adv_list = bluetooth.get_adv()
                if adv_list != None:
                for adv in adv_list:
                print("Time: {0} adv.mac: {1}".format(time.time(), binascii.hexlify(adv.mac)))
                else:
                print("Time: {0} adv.mac: {1}".format(time.time(), "None"))
                `
                and I get:
                MicroPython v1.8.6-607-g9c8a0e9e on 2017-05-01; LoPy with ESP32
                Login as: micro
                Password:
                Login succeeded!
                Type "help()" for more information.

                import BLE_Raw
                Time: 229 adv.mac: None
                Time: 230 adv.mac: None
                Time: 231 adv.mac: None
                Time: 232 adv.mac: None
                Time: 233 adv.mac: None
                Time: 234 adv.mac: None
                Time: 235 adv.mac: None
                Time: 236 adv.mac: None
                Time: 237 adv.mac: None
                Time: 238 adv.mac: None
                Time: 239 adv.mac: None
                Time: 240 adv.mac: None
                Time: 241 adv.mac: None
                Time: 242 adv.mac: None
                Time: 243 adv.mac: None
                Time: 244 adv.mac: None
                Time: 245 adv.mac: None
                Time: 246 adv.mac: None
                Time: 247 adv.mac: None
                Time: 248 adv.mac: None`

                Thanks for your review,
                Duane
                `

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                  papasmurph @Duane Kaufman
                  last edited by papasmurph

                  @Duane-Kaufman get_adv returns a single tuple, not an array, so "for" doesn't make sense here. See the code I posted initially.

                  Example: (mac=b'\xb4\x99Lm\x80\xcd', addr_type=0, adv_type=0, rssi=-87, data=b'\x02\x01\x06\x03\x02\xf0\xff\x15\xffBH\xcd\x80mL\x99\xb4\xa2@\x10\x01\x00\x00\xff\xff\x0f\xff\xff\xff\x00\x00')

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                    Duane Kaufman @papasmurph
                    last edited by

                    @papasmurph Thanks for looking this over. Changed code to this, but still no response:

                    import time
                    import binascii
                    
                    bluetooth = Bluetooth()
                    bluetooth.init()
                    
                    bluetooth.start_scan(20)    # start scanning with 10s timeout
                    while bluetooth.isscanning():
                    	time.sleep(1)
                    	adv_list = bluetooth.get_adv()
                    	if adv_list != None:
                    		print("Time: {0} adv.rssi: {1}".format(time.time(), adv.rssi))
                    	else:
                    		print("Time: {0} adv.mac: {1}".format(time.time(), "None"))```
                    
                    and I still get nothing :( as before
                    
                    Duane
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                      papasmurph @Duane Kaufman
                      last edited by papasmurph

                      @Duane-Kaufman It works fine if you fix a few bugs. Well, at least it did for me.

                      from network import Bluetooth
                      import time
                      
                      bluetooth = Bluetooth()
                      bluetooth.init()
                      bluetooth.start_scan(20)
                      
                      while bluetooth.isscanning():
                          adv_list = bluetooth.get_adv()
                          if adv_list != None:
                              print("Time: {0} adv.rssi: {1}".format(time.time(), adv_list.rssi))
                      
                          time.sleep(0.05)
                      
                      print("I give up!")
                      
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                        Duane Kaufman @papasmurph
                        last edited by

                        @papasmurph Using your code (modified a little :):

                        import time
                        
                        bluetooth = Bluetooth()
                        bluetooth.init()
                        bluetooth.start_scan(20)
                        
                        while bluetooth.isscanning():
                            adv_list = bluetooth.get_adv()
                            if adv_list != None:
                                print("Time: {0} adv.rssi: {1}".format(time.time(), adv_list))
                        
                            time.sleep(1.0)
                        
                        print("I give up!")```
                        
                        I do not get anything (generally). Once in a great while, I will pick up one of the three BLE devices nearby, but probably only 1 in ten times I run the script.
                        
                        Duane
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                          papasmurph @Duane Kaufman
                          last edited by

                          @Duane-Kaufman I don't strictly see all advertisements either and after some time (randomly, but usually after an hour or so) it stops entirely, so something is wrong. In my own code I now use the event callback, which enables it to do other things in parallel, but it still happens though.

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                            RichardTXD @papasmurph
                            last edited by

                            @papasmurph
                            Hi.
                            I've been working on this, following your progress and the great community support - thanks. This is a show stopper for me if it can't be made to scan reliably 24/7.

                            Have you made progress?

                            I found that it just stops scanning early without an error message. I told it to scan for "-1" seconds = forever. I thought it was broken packets but I (currently) think that is wrong.

                            I've been tinkering with your code. I found it sensitive to putting in a gc.collect() just before fetching a packet (device = bluetooth.get etc) - that made the difference between scanning for approx 1 minute to many minutes (still going after 10 and I must leave the office).
                            Much more testing required.

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                              papasmurph @RichardTXD
                              last edited by

                              @RichardTXD With callback to an event handler it can work for an hour or so, but still eventually stops. It's time Pycom takes a look at it.

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                                stef @papasmurph
                                last edited by

                                @papasmurph ,
                                I confirm that , still stoping after time . nothing to do but reset.
                                New firmware doesn't matter .

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                                  RichardTXD @papasmurph
                                  last edited by

                                  @papasmurph
                                  I am Running WiPy 2.0 with latest firmware flashed yesterday.
                                  Windows 7 and Atom. I'm using an expansion board.
                                  I set my PC to not shutdown/go to sleep etc.

                                  Hi. There is also a concern with callback. I tried it also. Then I went back to a non-call back program. The callback was still triggering.
                                  It would appear that unless you press reset of the board, the callback lingers in memory.
                                  I would not be surprised at a difference. I'm guessing memory is deallocated when the callback is terminated and that may be at the heart of it all.

                                  @stef
                                  Hi. You are quite correct. It is unstable.
                                  I've seen different crashes depending on if garbage collection is done. If I don't garbage collect it seems to crash quicker - I will go back to testing that later.

                                  I'm still trying to get a feel for how and where it crashes but so far it seems random - a few hours to tens of minutes.

                                  I modded the program to tell me how many beacons were received. I have a lot of beacons in the office. I empty the queue on each iteration.

                                  I did 3 tests late yesterday.
                                  I set it to scan for -1 seconds = infinitely
                                  There is a garbage collection before each read of bluetooth into its variable.
                                  I press reset between each program run
                                  Test-1. It received 103,139 beacons and failed after about 2.5 hours
                                  Test-2. It received 17,094 beacons and failed - not all that long.
                                  Test-3. It received 31,945 beacons and failed.
                                  Each fail was the code hanging up. Stopped.
                                  I just now put in an elapsed seconds on the end of each result.
                                  The outer while loop repeats till it is not scanning. An inner loop empties the queue. I assume it was still scanning, yet nothing was received.

                                  Until we get past this issue, I can't ship product of course, same as others I suppose. I'm trying to think of a workaround.

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                                    papasmurph @RichardTXD
                                    last edited by

                                    @RichardTXD As this is discussed in Issues&Bugs, let's hope Pycom acts on it.

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                                      RichardTXD @papasmurph
                                      last edited by

                                      @papasmurph
                                      Yes. I truly hope so and soon. It is unstable. Same for WiPy 2.0

                                      Recap : My code is basically yours with extra diagnositcs for number of beacons read, heap space, number of items in the queue.

                                      When it fails, I press control-C and each time it says the last line was "while device != None" (I pull all packets out of the queue when it wakes up).

                                      Is this a hint to anyone?

                                      I've spent the day runing tests on it. Best is about 3.6 hours. Worst about 10 minutes. Putting in garbage collection, taking it out. Changing "sleep" for "idle()", adding diagnostic messages. No closer to nailing down what it is.

                                      Tempted to run the program without any bluetooth to see if it is the underlying system that is flaky. Maybe tomorrow.

                                      Rather frustrating.

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                                        stef @RichardTXD
                                        last edited by

                                        @RichardTXD
                                        yes , the only workarround i found for this problem is to use deepsleep ( as it act like a reset).
                                        Another problem i try to solve is to avoid all the 'miss' on a short scan time.
                                        I use Kontack Beacons , they push a message every 250ms.
                                        With a 2 secondes scan , on 3 Beacons surrounding , one tag is missing on 1 / 4 loop.

                                        any hint ?

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                                          papasmurph @stef
                                          last edited by papasmurph

                                          @stef You can reconfigure any beacon (including Kontakt's) to ping less often. 0.25 is usually unnecessarily short and drains the battery fast, unless they are USB-attached of course. Try 1 second. I recommend that you scan for 10 seconds and collect all detected beacons in a list, send the list (in some clever format) and then activate sleep. I don't understand why you miss any pings with that high frequency. The Pycom should detect all and queue them (up to 8) that should all be visible via get_adv if you just call it often enough (at least every 50 milliseconds or so), or better, use a callback with an internal loop for "strays", the way I do it now. I've noticed not all pings show up, but I have assumed that's a bug.

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                                            RichardTXD @stef
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                                            @stef
                                            Hi Stef. We use Kontakt beacons also. I have something like 90 to 100 beacons in the office with me, set on Level-2 power and 500mS interval.
                                            I notice a speed difference in scanning depending on code. I can get close to 1,000 packets a minute or down below 600 depending on the code. One run I got 103,000 packets in about 2 hours. A different set of code with different garbage collection I got about 90,000 packets in 3.5 hours approx. Quite a difference.
                                            I'm not that worried about lost packets; the possibility of collisions and broken packets is very high - and then there are my 2 or 3 WiFi devices in the office also pushing out RF. Broken and lost packets are a given imho. There is no way they won't collide.
                                            With 3 beacons and 250mS gap there would be less collisions but I would not rule it out. Maybe set a longer interval in the beacons and increase the scanning window.
                                            Latest test-tweak of the code has run for 1hr 20m approx. Nothing special. I would have thought 24 to 48 hours 'good' but not great if it falls over then. The problem is that it falls over and seems to die.No error message. No recovery.

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