Pymakr... Time of Death : 09/02... ;-)

[Pete]

@bucknall said in Pymakr... Time of Death : 09/02... ;-):

We aren't reallocating resources to put work on these plugins in front of developing the device firmware, it's simply moving the effort from Pymakr over to these new plugins.

If the Pymakr developers don't have the right skill-set for the firmware, or if the nature of the firmware work or its development process means they'd just be tripping over each other with the existing folks, then fine. Otherwise, let's have 'em on @jasonriedy's DeepSleep, or whatever causes me to be kicked out the REPL when I try to inspect the WLAN config :-)

Pete

[MaSePreetz]

@bucknall
Hi Alex,

in my opinion dropping PyMakr makes sense.

But i would like to point out that the possibility to get the REPL on the console inside the IDE
is very important.

I am new to Python and am struggling with the syntax (doing Java and JavaScript for my living). The REPL
gives me the opportunity to test my code while developing with direct feedback and print() debugging.
This is really beneficial.

In addition i witnessed that within our company we setup a LoPy within minutes for a simple demo
by using PyMakr, your demo projects and feedback on the REPL loop.
So this REPL integration is crucial (at least for starters, not so much for experts).

The same applies for a simple file transfer/sync mechanism.

I know that it is possible to achieve all this with several other tools in combination, but this is
rather old-fashioned. (i worked with and appreciated emacs, telnet, the command line, but in
my spare time i love integrated IDEs as a one-stop shop!)

I am eager to see your plugins,
Marc

[Pete]

@MaSePreetz said in Pymakr... Time of Death : 09/02... ;-):

But i would like to point out that the possibility to get the REPL on the console inside the IDE
is very important.

I am new to Python and am struggling with the syntax (doing Java and JavaScript for my living). The REPL
gives me the opportunity to test my code while developing with direct feedback and print() debugging.
This is really beneficial.

Having the REPL is great, and impressive on such a constrained device. But does it really make a difference to your dev workflow whether it's in the same window as your editor or in a terminal next to it?

Or, if it must be in the same window, Atom at least has a few plugins that can do that:
https://atom.io/packages/terminal-plus
https://atom.io/packages/atom-terminal-panel
and probably others.

Pete

[mo-seph]

I'm looking at the LoPy for educational use, and having everything all together in Pymakr was quite useful - it becomes much harder if we have to support student's individual IDEs and strange setups. It's probably manageable though, if we come up with a single, cross platform supported solution.

The thing that is really tricky, though, is the FTP uploads, as they need to be done over the LoPy's wifi, and in a room with 20 LoPys that becomes really challenging. Is anything planned for doing file uploads over the USB serial?

[bucknall]

@mo-seph What we will likely do is have a pre-packaged IDE (likely Atom) that already has everything installed after you download it. This way you can just direct your students to navigate towards our software page and download everything you need pre-installed.

We're working on file upload over USB Serial, this is on the roadmap. In addition to this, the SSID that each device broadcasts will be written on the sticker on top of the LoPy (as well as the other devices) for the next production run of devices.

[mo-seph]

@bucknall Great! BTW - I have some feedback and suggestions for improvement on the boards. Where's the best place to send it?

[bucknall]

@mo-seph Is it specifically related to the hardware or firmware? I'm still working on streamlining the forum categories so might need a new one!

[exquisitus]

how come are these 4 the "most popular"? you gotta be kidding me...
eclipse and idea?

[mo-seph]

@bucknall hardware.

[bucknall]

@mo-seph I created this just for you https://forum.pycom.io/category/30/hardware ;-) Hope we can help resolve this!

[happyday]

This is the way to go. I use PyDev within the Eclipse environment. Do you see a plug in developed for this? (Thank you).

[Bajoja]

When a beta?
Anxious for a beta because Pymakr does not work here.

[TravisT]

I tend to like to plug in my board when doing a lot of development. So my tools are Atom and rshell. This is partly because I write on multiple processors and USB is the simple common denominator.
https://github.com/dhylands/rshell

[juriw]

Great news! We have had some problems with Pymakr and are looking forward to an Atom plugin! Where to look for the release of Atom plugin? Have tried to find the project on Github without any luck.

[bucknall]

Hi @juriw,

It is still under development but should be coming in the next month or so! I'll make sure to keep you updated!

[juriw]

@bucknall Sweet! :) Looking forward to working with it.

[Innocenzo]

@bucknall Very good news. There are some release dates?

[fos]

@danielm

Very interesting news. It is moving in a positive direction. Maybe you could update your "Getting Started" documentation.

I am using the WiPy 2.0 via telnet and a simple editor.

Are there any plans to support WingIDE?

Thank you,
v/r
Jeff

[bucknall]

Hi @fos,

We're just waiting for the first builds of the new plugins to arrive - however, we will put up a notice about Pymakr in the documentation to reflect this!

Right now we're looking to start with these 4 IDEs/Editors but we shall see going forward!

Will keep you updated!

Thanks,

Alex

[juriw]

@bucknall Have you thought about talking with Zerynth (https://www.zerynth.com/) about them integrating your boards? I think their IDE and environment looks really sleek!