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    [Solved] Power consumption deep sleep Pysense/Pytrack

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      dbrgn
      last edited by

      I can confirm that the pysense does not seem to properly go into deep sleep.

      On a 3.7V LiPo, it still pulls 2.7mA in deep sleep mode. (Note, the USB cable in the photo below is not connected to any power source.)

      photo of multimeter

      Pysense firmware is at 0.0.3.

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        bucknall @Pwntus
        last edited by

        @Pwntus (+ others) Thanks for raising this! We're now investigating this, it appears that the issue only pertains to the the Pysense. Thanks for your patience!

        Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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          jcaron @bucknall
          last edited by

          @bucknall Hi,

          Have you made any progress on this? Any idea if this is hardware-related or just a firmware issue yet?

          Thanks!

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            Pwntus @jcaron
            last edited by

            @jcaron issues with the Pysense should be fixed in the pysense_0.0.4.dfu firmware release, but we have yet to test it. I'll post the results tomorrow.

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              jcaron @Pwntus
              last edited by

              @Pwntus Ah, wondered about that, but didn't see anything in the chagelog that seemed to be related. Thanks for the (very) quick reply!

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                bucknall @jcaron
                last edited by

                @jcaron @Pwntus I'll double check with Daniel regarding the power concerns. I'll confirm if this is correct (I'm London based - Daniel works from the Netherlands).

                Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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                  Pwntus
                  last edited by Pwntus

                  @jcaron @bucknall (+ others) here's our new (unofficial) Pysense test.

                  LoPy firmware: 1.7.6.b1
                  Pysense firmware: 0.0.4

                  Our test program disabled WiFi and Bluetooth in boot.py and ran a 30s normal sleep (time.sleep()) and a 30s deep sleep (py.setup_sleep(30) + py.go_to_sleep()).
                  Here's our results:

                  USB power
                  Normal sleep: ~57.2mA
                  Deep sleep: ~7.35mA

                  3.7V LiPo battery
                  Normal sleep: ~49.1mA
                  Deep sleep: 2.2mA

                  It still appears that the Pysense has issues with deep sleep.

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                    bucknall @Pwntus
                    last edited by

                    @Pwntus Ok I'll feed this back to Daniel again - apologies for getting your hopes up - I'll keep you in the loop with how this progresses.

                    Thanks for your patience,

                    Alex

                    Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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                      jmarcelino @bucknall
                      last edited by jmarcelino

                      I saw the same results for the Pysense as @Pwntus

                      Also noticed that if you used the MPL3115A2 pressure sensor (not sure about the others) it goes into deep sleep with it in active mode increasing consumption by about 1mA. But I think this one can be solved in the Python library by setting MPL3115_CTRL_REG1 to 0x0 (to clear SBYB bit in CTRL1 register)

                      mp = MPL3115A2(py)
                      
                      mp.i2c.writeto_mem(MPL3115A2.MPL3115_I2CADDR, MPL3115A2.MPL3115_CTRL_REG1, bytes([0x0]))
                      

                      before entering deep sleep.

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                        bucknall @jmarcelino
                        last edited by

                        @jmarcelino Ah good catch! I'll test this out - Thanks!

                        Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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                          jmarcelino @bucknall
                          last edited by

                          @bucknall
                          Just to be clear that 1mA is on top of the lingering 2mA... I'm not sure what's causing that one yet :)

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                            Emmanuel Goudot @jmarcelino
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                            @jmarcelino Are you sure sensors on the PySense are powered during deepSleep ?
                            I have done tests on pytrack, and it looks like 3.3V is 'cut' for LoPy, LIS(accel) & GPS, explaining the ~17µA of the pytrack during deepsleep.

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                              jmarcelino @Emmanuel Goudot
                              last edited by jmarcelino

                              @Emmanuel-Goudot
                              I see 2.6V on the MPL3115A2 Vdd pin during deep sleep so I guess it is active, for example on the Si7006-A20 (temp/humidity) I don't.

                              My best guess is certain sensors can act as wake-up sources (e.g. pressure going above/below threshold) so they have separate power nets.

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                                dbrgn
                                last edited by

                                Is there any ETA on the deep sleep fix? This is delaying the shipping of one of my projects. We simply can't send it to the customer if the battery only lasts a few days or weeks.

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                                  dbrgn
                                  last edited by dbrgn

                                  Sorry for bumping this again, but now that a new LoPy firmware has been released, any news about the low power fix?

                                  The specifications of the PySense on the website still says:

                                  Ultra low power operation (~1uA in deep sleep)

                                  ...since that promise is still off by a factor of about 2500, at least an ETA would make me happy :)

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                                    Pwntus
                                    last edited by Pwntus

                                    @dbrgn Not really any changes with 1.7.8.b1.

                                    LoPy firmware: 1.7.8.b1
                                    Pysense firmware: 0.0.4

                                    USB power
                                    Normal sleep: 48.8mA
                                    Deep sleep: 7.4mA

                                    3.7V LiPo battery
                                    Normal sleep: 40.2mA
                                    Deep sleep: 2.2mA

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                                      dbrgn
                                      last edited by

                                      Cool, this is now fixed: 10.9uA :) https://forum.pycom.io/topic/1022/root-causes-of-high-deep-sleep-current/73

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                                        Pwntus @dbrgn
                                        last edited by

                                        @dbrgn Thanks for the notification, I can confirm that it works!

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