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      alanm101 @alanm101
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      @alanm101 I had a demo today. It did not go well. Last night in the hotel room, there were no issues with my solution running for several hours. Today, the Lopy stopped finding BLE advertisements every few minutes. Even a machine.reset() every 50 cycles made no difference, nor did some other solutions proposed elsewhere in this thread. This is soul-destroying. I understand that modules like Lopy are not intended for full-blown production solutions, but for makers who are trying to enter a market, some degree of reliability is important.

      The demo environment was saturated with high-tech. The hotel room, not so much. Perhaps that had a negative influence that led to the instability.

      Bottom line; the Lopy is, in my opinion, untrustworthy. I wish there was a possibility to return the two Lopy and two expansion boards. Sadly, in my neck of the woods (South Africa) that's not gonna happen. Since I'm stuck with the chips, I will follow other suggestions to hook up a serial monitor to look for esp-idf errors, once I've regained some dignity and enthusiasm after today's embarrassment.

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        jcaron @alanm101
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        @alanm101 did it stop finding any BLE advertisements at all, or specifically those you were looking for?

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          alanm101 @alanm101
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          Apologies for yet another post. Please issue a cease and desist if this it too much.

          Anyway, back at the hotel, and further tests (sans my serial monitor that's pining away at home). Perhaps the complexity of the demo environment was a factor. The code I'm running now at the hotel suggests that volume of BLE advertisements overwhelmed the chip. So one must figure out how to code around this. A callback that intelligently discards? I'm getting out of my depth on this and will happily accept derision from the community but would prefer constructive guidance.

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            alanm101 @jcaron
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            @jcaron All advs. I specifically put in debug code to determine this. As mentioned, the machine.reset() had no impact, yet a physical reset via the reset button got the BLE scanning showing results.

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              alanm101 @alanm101
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              No code change. No power supply change. At the hotel, no problems. The hypothesis that the chip can't handle technologically complex environments appears to have some merit.

              Hopefully a community member will highlight a solution.

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                jmarcelino @alanm101
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                @alanm101
                I'm afraid it's impossible to highlight any correct solution based on so little information.

                You're saying that the module - mounted on the expansion board, not a breadboard or something custom - stops scanning BLE beacons in "complex technological environments"?

                Can you post what appears in the serial output (from the Expansion Board USB port) from the module when this happens? This is crucial to understanding - and potentially fixing - the problem.

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                  jcaron
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                  I wouldn't be too surprised if some specific advertisements could break the scanning code. However without an idea of what that advertisement could be, it might be difficult to find out.

                  If you have some other device that can capture all BLE advertisements, it could be useful to get that capture so that each advertisement could then be tested again the BLE code to see how it handles it.

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                    alanm101
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                    @jcaron @jmarcelino Thanks for the comments guys. I will be spending quality time on this and will give feedback sometime. No problems when it ran all night at the hotel. Only my 4 iBeacons in range though.

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                      alanm101 @papasmurph
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                      @papasmurph Please help me understand how you posted the code? When I try pasting inline, it's a mess. I don't have permission to upload a file.

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                        papasmurph @alanm101
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                        @alanm101 Three left apostrophs (```) on separate lines before and after the code.

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                          alanm101 @papasmurph
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                          @papasmurph Thanks!

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                            alanm101 @jmarcelino
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                            @jmarcelino My goodness j, I'm embarrassed. Somehow I concluded that the expansion board has a separate debug serial output. So I hooked up on pins G1, G2 and GND as per other posts and found it's the exact same serial output as via the MicroUSB serial output. I'm seeing no extra output other than my own debug print statements. I will post the full source code and the serial output a little later.

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                              alanm101 @alanm101
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                              @jcaron @jmarcelino Here's the code and the serial output. You will notice that, without warning or raised exception, the scanning becomes unsuccessful at around 3450 seconds (58 minutes). That's indicated by the repeated beacon ID and rssi, despite having moved that beacon out of range when the repetition started. As always, advice greatly appreciated. Options: a) repeat test on Lopy using standard espessif's standard firmware, b) repeat test with a standard ESP32.

                              from network import Bluetooth
                              import pycom
                              import time
                              import gc
                              import binascii
                              import machine
                              
                              mybeaconids = ['d3e0f6cd4ca9','eea068fa3738','f51e1bced835','ea204c29bb1f','e9f1db4814ef']
                              enditall = False
                              
                              pycom.heartbeat(False)
                              timeSleep = 0.01
                              
                              bluetooth = Bluetooth()
                              starttime = time.time()
                              
                              devid = ''
                              rssi = ''
                              
                              def new_adv_event(event):
                                  global devid, rssi
                                  if event.events() == Bluetooth.NEW_ADV_EVENT:
                                      anydata = True
                                      while anydata:
                                          adv = bluetooth.get_adv()
                                          if adv != None:
                                              devid = binascii.hexlify(adv[0]).decode('utf-8')
                                              rssi = str(adv[3]*-1)
                                          else:
                                              anydata = False
                              
                              bluetooth.callback(trigger = Bluetooth.NEW_ADV_EVENT, handler = new_adv_event)
                              
                              print('Starting BLE scan')
                              bluetooth.init()
                              bluetooth.start_scan(-1)
                              
                              p_in = machine.Pin("G17",machine.Pin.IN, pull=machine.Pin.PULL_UP)
                              
                              loopcnt = 0
                              while True:
                                  loopcnt += 1
                                  if not bluetooth.isscanning():
                                      print('--------- Restarting BLE scan')
                                      bluetooth.deinit()
                                      bluetooth.init()
                                      bluetooth.start_scan(-1)
                              
                                  # to keep the log manageable, print details only every 500 loops.
                                  if loopcnt%500 == 0:
                                      print(time.time() - starttime, devid, rssi)
                                  if p_in() == 0:
                                      print('pin')
                                      break
                                  time.sleep(0.05)
                              
                              bluetooth.callback(None)
                              bluetooth.stop_scan()
                              bluetooth.deinit()
                              
                              print('Run time in seconds ', time.time() - starttime)
                              
                              
                              
                              
                              
                              ------  Serial output. 
                              
                              
                              rst:0x1 (POWERON_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
                              ets Jun  8 2016 00:22:57
                              
                              rst:0x10 (RTCWDT_RTC_RESET),boot:0x13 (SPI_FAST_FLASH_BOOT)
                              configsip: 0, SPIWP:0xee
                              clk_drv:0x00,q_drv:0x00,d_drv:0x00,cs0_drv:0x00,hd_drv:0x00,wp_drv:0x00
                              mode:DIO, clock div:1
                              load:0x3fff9010,len:12
                              ho 0 tail 12 room 4
                              load:0x3fff9020,len:388
                              load:0x40078000,len:11584
                              load:0x4009fb00,len:848
                              entry 0x4009fc9c
                              Starting BLE scan
                              25 f51e1bced835 74
                              50 6c8009ac5ece 71
                              75 d5e2f8cf4eab 76
                              100 7e0504d53526 51
                              125 e9f1db4814ef 73
                              150 7e0504d53526 49
                              175 7e0504d53526 52
                              200 730088c7c467 49
                              225 6c8009ac5ece 78
                              250 6c8009ac5ece 72
                              275 d5e2f8cf4eab 75
                              300 d5e2f8cf4eab 75
                              325 d3e0f6cd4ca9 67
                              350 7e0504d53526 49
                              <snip>
                              ...
                              </snip>
                              2850 6c28333b9548 52
                              2875 73bc08769bce 62
                              2900 d5e2f8cf4eab 66
                              2925 f7201dd0da37 76
                              2950 73bc08769bce 61
                              2975 6c28333b9548 50
                              3000 73bc08769bce 59
                              3025 d5e2f8cf4eab 63
                              3050 73bc08769bce 62
                              3075 ea204c29bb1f 69
                              3100 73bc08769bce 58
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                              3150 73bc08769bce 58
                              3175 6c28333b9548 51
                              3200 6c28333b9548 51
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                              3250 d3e0f6cd4ca9 63
                              3275 6c28333b9548 50
                              3300 73bc08769bce 58
                              3325 d5e2f8cf4eab 63
                              3350 6c28333b9548 51
                              3375 d5e2f8cf4eab 63
                              3400 6c28333b9548 50
                              3425 6c28333b9548 51
                              3450 73bc08769bce 62
                              3475 73bc08769bce 62
                              3500 73bc08769bce 62
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                              pin
                              Run time in seconds  3743
                              
                              MicroPython v1.8.6-776-gd01a46cd on 2017-09-29; LoPy with ESP32
                              Type "help()" for more information.
                              >>> 
                              
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                                jmarcelino @alanm101
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                                @alanm101
                                Thank you, that information is very helpful.

                                Yes it would be interesting to compare with the C level ESP-IDF code on the ESP32.

                                I'll look into it in the coming days.

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                                  jcaron @alanm101
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                                  @alanm101 What's the advertising interval of your beacons? If you change the advertising interval or the number of beacons, does the time scanning fails change?

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                                    alanm101 @jcaron
                                    last edited by alanm101

                                    @jcaron Time to failure is random. Just ran another test in same controlled environment (home). Failed after 13 minutes.

                                    Unfortunately I'm using Estimotes that cannot be transferred to me so frequency is a) fixed, b) unknown. The Estimote app refuses to divulge the info. Nordic's app can't list it either. If it will help, I can move them out of range and turn my phone into an iBeacon for a new test.

                                    Update: Can't seem to set update frequency for virtual beacon. At least not with the software I have.

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                                      jcaron @alanm101
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                                      @alanm101 AFAIK there’s no frequency selection in BLE, it uses frequency hopping on predefined frequencies.

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                                        jcaron @jcaron
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                                        @jcaron ah sorry you meant the frequency of the advertisements. It’s usually not possible to find on the receiver side (as it does not necessarily listen all the time), but there are often ways to change it on the beacon (it’s a matter of compromise between time to discovery and power consumption)

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                                          alanm101 @jcaron
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                                          @jcaron Yes, I meant broadcast rate/frequency. Apologies. Sadly I can't configure these.

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                                            jcaron
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                                            @alanm101 this: https://community.estimote.com/hc/en-us/articles/204100806-What-are-the-default-settings-of-Estimote-Beacons-How-to-edit-settings- says you should be able to adjust them.

                                            Alternatively you may want to try to see if varying the number of beacons has an influence on the time to failure. Just in case it’s a simple matter of the code failing after receiving a given number of advertisements (which would also explain the issue you had at the exhibition).

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