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    LoPy Nano-Gateway Extended (Timeout and Retry)

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      livius @adrian12310407
      last edited by

      @adrian12310407
      you must update firmware
      current version is 1.4.0.b1
      https://www.pycom.io/support/supportdownloads/

      think about people first, then computers

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        adrian12310407
        last edited by

        Thanks, I'll prove it

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          rvandam
          last edited by

          Thank you for these examples!

          Could you add a print(msg) in the gateway code?

          It is more consistent with the previous example, and you know quicker that it works (should have started after the coffee this morning :-) )

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            gouao
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              Butch
              last edited by

              I've tried the examples, but I am not having any success. The gateway is not receiving any messages with length > 0. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other LoRa devices in use, and I am using only one gateway and one node.

              Any suggestions on how to debug this?

              Thanks!

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                gerkez
                last edited by

                Hello Roberto,

                Where do I change the band?
                I don't see it in your scripts

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                  Butch @Butch
                  last edited by Butch

                  @Butch said in LoPy Nano-Gateway Extended (Timeout and Retry):

                  I've tried the examples, but I am not having any success. The gateway is not receiving any messages with length > 0. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other LoRa devices in use, and I am using only one gateway and one node.

                  Any suggestions on how to debug this?

                  Thanks!

                  Following up on my own post (poor form, I know, but what to do?), I thought I'd provide more information:

                  • I am trying to use one LoPy on an expansion board with antenna as a gateway, and one with the same setup as a node.
                  • I am running this code on the gateway (http://pastebin.com/PDCnq2gF) and this on the node (http://pastebin.com/Ztf5QMWY).
                  • I am seeing constant messages of zero length being received on the gateway:
                  Starting LoRaNanoGateway
                  Received message, length = 0
                  Received message, length = 0
                  Received message, length = 0
                  Received message, length = 0
                  Received message, length = 0
                  Received message, length = 0
                  
                  • I am seeing no acknowledgements on the node:
                  Starting LoRaNanoNode on device 1
                  Sending a message from device 1
                  MESSAGE FAILED
                  Sending a message from device 1
                  MESSAGE FAILED
                  Sending a message from device 1
                  MESSAGE FAILED
                  Sending a message from device 1
                  MESSAGE FAILED
                  

                  I have tried four different LoPy's in two different physical locations, so I don't think I'm having any RF pollution issues.

                  I could really use some help with this.

                  Thanks!

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                    bucknall @Butch
                    last edited by

                    Hi @Butch

                    There's previously was a small bug in the gateway and node code where you need to specify the spread factor (e.g. sf=7).

                    This has since been patched in the latest firmware release, please try to update your device and your code should now work!

                    Cheers!

                    Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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                      Butch @bucknall
                      last edited by

                      @bucknall said in LoPy Nano-Gateway Extended (Timeout and Retry):

                      Hi @Butch

                      There's previously was a small bug in the gateway and node code where you need to specify the spread factor (e.g. sf=7).

                      This has since been patched in the latest firmware release, please try to update your device and your code should now work!

                      Cheers!

                      It works! Thank you so much!

                      Butch

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                        Colateral @Roberto
                        last edited by

                        @Roberto Doesn't work anymore with. Simply GW not getting the message.

                        (sysname='LoPy', nodename='LoPy', release='1.6.10.b1', version='v1.8.6-556-g989d5ac9 on 2017-03-30', machine='LoPy with ESP32', lorawan='1.0.0')

                        Any ideas why?

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                          Butch @bucknall
                          last edited by Butch

                          @bucknall Alex, I'll share my current issue here so that hopefully others can benefit from my stupidity. :-)

                          I have the sample code above working. The node and gateway properly exchange message/ACK. The message being sent from the node is

                          DEVICE 1 HERE
                          

                          To make this more useful, I want to change the message to some JSON reporting a temperature:

                          {"id": 1, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}
                          

                          However, this fails. But it fails in a completely unexpected way. On the gateway:

                          recv_pkg = lora_sock.recv(512)
                          

                          constantly receives zero-length packets. All I did was change the message being sent. I did not change the header, nor the struct. If I had a malformed header or payload, I would expect the recv to at least get something with a length greater than zero bytes.

                          Complete sample code for gateway:

                          #
                          # LoRaNanoGateway.py
                          #
                          
                          import socket
                          import struct
                          from network import LoRa
                          import time
                          
                          # A basic package header
                          # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                          # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                          # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                          # %ds: Formated string for string
                          _LORA_PKG_FORMAT = "!BBB%ds"
                          
                          # A basic ack package
                          # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                          # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                          # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                          # B: 1 byte for the Ok (200) or error messages
                          _LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT = "BBBB"
                          
                          # Let the world know we're starting up.
                          
                          print("Starting LoRaNanoGateway")
                          
                          # Open a Lora Socket, use rx_iq to avoid listening to our own messages
                          lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORA, frequency=915000000, rx_iq=True)
                          lora_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                          lora_sock.setblocking(False)
                          
                          while (True):
                          
                              # Since the maximum body size in the protocol is 255 the request is limited to 512 bytes
                              recv_pkg = lora_sock.recv(512)
                              print("Received message, length = %d" % len(recv_pkg))
                          
                              # If at least a message with the header is received process it
                              if (len(recv_pkg) > 3):
                                  print("<<<<<<<<<<<<< Received VALID message, length = %d" % len(recv_pkg))
                          
                                  recv_pkg_len = recv_pkg[1]
                          
                                  # If message is corrupted should not continue processing
                                  if (not len(recv_pkg) == recv_pkg_len + 3):
                                      continue
                          
                                  # Unpack the message based on the protocol definition
                                  device_id, pkg_len, msg_id, msg = struct.unpack(_LORA_PKG_FORMAT % recv_pkg_len, recv_pkg)
                          
                                  # Respond to the device with an acknowledge package
                                  # time.sleep(0.15)
                                  print("+++ Received a message: %s" % msg)
                                  ack_pkg = struct.pack(_LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT, device_id, 1, msg_id, 200)
                                  print("------ Sending an ACK")
                                  lora_sock.send(ack_pkg)
                          
                                  # Do any extra processing required for the package. Keep in mind it should be as fast as posible
                                  # to make sure that the other clients are not waiting too long for their messages to be acknoleged
                          

                          Complete sample code for node:

                          #
                          # LoRaNanoNode.py
                          #
                          
                          import os
                          import socket
                          import time
                          import struct
                          from network import LoRa
                          from uos import urandom
                          
                          # A basic package header
                          # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                          # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                          # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                          # %ds: Formated string for string
                          _LORA_PKG_FORMAT = "!BBB%ds"
                          
                          # A basic ack package
                          # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                          # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                          # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                          # B: 1 byte for the Ok (200) or error messages
                          _LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT = "BBBB"
                          
                          # This device ID, use different device id for each device
                          _DEVICE_ID = 0x01
                          _MAX_ACK_TIME = 5000
                          _RETRY_COUNT = 3
                          
                          # Let the world know we're starting up.
                          
                          print("Starting LoRaNanoNode on device %d" % _DEVICE_ID)
                          
                          # Open a Lora Socket, use tx_iq to avoid listening to our own messages
                          lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORA, frequency=915000000, tx_iq=True)
                          lora_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                          lora_sock.setblocking(False)
                          
                          # Method to increase message id and keep in between 1 and 255
                          msg_id = 0
                          def increase_msg_id():
                              global msg_id
                              msg_id = (msg_id + 1) & 0xFF
                          
                          # Method for acknoledge waiting time keep
                          def check_ack_time(from_time):
                              current_time = time.ticks_ms()
                              return (current_time - from_time > _MAX_ACK_TIME)
                          
                          # Method to send messages
                          def send_msg(msg):
                              global msg_id
                              retry = _RETRY_COUNT
                              while (retry > 0 and not retry == -1):
                                  retry -= 1
                                  pkg = struct.pack(_LORA_PKG_FORMAT % len(msg), _DEVICE_ID, len(msg), msg_id, msg)
                                  bytes_sent = lora_sock.send(pkg)
                                  print(">>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package %s, length = %d, bytes sent = %d" % (pkg, len(pkg), bytes_sent))
                          
                                  # Wait for the response from the server.
                                  start_time = time.ticks_ms()
                          
                                  while(not check_ack_time(start_time)):
                                      recv_ack = lora_sock.recv(256)
                                      # If a message of the size of the acknoledge message is received
                                      if (len(recv_ack) == 4):
                                          device_id, pkg_len, recv_msg_id, status = struct.unpack(_LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT, recv_ack)
                                          if (device_id == _DEVICE_ID and recv_msg_id == msg_id):
                                              if (status == 200):
                                                  # Do some code if your message arrived at the central
                                                  return True
                                              else:
                                                  return False
                                  time.sleep_ms(urandom(1)[0] << 2)
                              return False
                          
                          # Main Loop
                          while(True):
                          
                              msg = '{"id": %s, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}' % _DEVICE_ID
                              # msg = "DEVICE %d HERE" % _DEVICE_ID
                          
                              print("Sending a message: %s, length = %d" % (msg, len(msg)))
                          
                              # success = send_msg("DEVICE %d HERE" % _DEVICE_ID)
                              success = send_msg(msg)
                              if (success):
                                  print("ACK RECEIVED: %d" % msg_id)
                                  increase_msg_id()
                              else:
                                  print("MESSAGE FAILED")
                                  # Manage the error message
                          #
                          # >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01I\x00{"id": 1, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}', length = 76
                          # >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01\r\x10DEVICE 1 HERE', length = 16
                          #
                          

                          You can see that I have dumped the raw packed structure, and that it sure looks like it's properly formed. ASCII '\r' corresponds to 13, which is the length of the payload in the original sample message, and ASCII 'I' corresponds to 73, which is the length of the payload in my new message. The device ID in the header is the same, and the message ID shouldn't matter, right?

                          My understanding is that the payload size is limited to 255 bytes, so I don't think I'm running into a space issue.

                          I should also add that I'm running 1.6.8b2 on both boards:

                          >>> import os
                          >>> os.uname()
                          (sysname='LoPy', nodename='LoPy', release='1.6.8.b2', version='v1.8.6-530-gca8bdcbb on 2017-03-21', machine='LoPy with ESP32', lorawan='1.0.0')
                          

                          Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.

                          Thanks!

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                            gouao
                            last edited by

                            Can a seeeduino lorawan communicate with the lopys ?
                            Can it act as a node, wich is recognized by the lopy nano-gateway ?

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                              Butch @Butch
                              last edited by

                              Following up on my own post (which seems to be a theme for me), I discovered that it is, indeed, the length of the payload that's causing the problem. If I limit the payload to 61 bytes (plus a three-byte header), it works:

                              Sending a message: 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901, length = 61
                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01=\x001234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901', length = 64, bytes sent = 64
                              ACK RECEIVED: 0
                              

                              If, however, I increase the length of the payload to 62 bytes (plus a three-byte header), it fails:

                              Sending a message: 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012, length = 62
                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                              MESSAGE FAILED
                              

                              Any ideas?

                              Thanks!

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                                Butch @Butch
                                last edited by Butch

                                And, once again replying to my own post, I understand why:

                                LoRa spec:

                                7.2.6 US902-928 Maximum payload size

                                2 The maximum MACPayload size length (M) is given by the following table. It is derived from
                                3 the maximum allowed transmission time at the PHY layer taking into account a possible
                                4 repeater encapsulation. The maximum application payload length in the absence of the
                                5 optional FOpt MAC control field (N) is also given for information only. The value of N might
                                6 be smaller if the FOpt field is not empty:
                                7

                                DataRate       M         N
                                0              19        11
                                1              61        53
                                2              137       129
                                3              250       242
                                4              250       242
                                5:7             Not defined
                                8              41        33
                                9              117       109
                                10             230       222
                                11             230       222
                                12             230       222
                                13             230       222
                                14:15           Not defined
                                

                                So, as you can see, at data rate 1, the maximum payload size is 61 bytes. If I want to send more, I have to increase the data rate.

                                My question now is how do I increase the data rate? Ideally, I'd like to use data rate 3.

                                It looked like I could just do this:

                                lora_sock.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 3)
                                

                                That code completes with no complaint, but when I make the change on both the node and gateway sides, it does not change the maximum payload size.

                                After playing around with it some more, 4 seems to be the maximum supported, in spite of what the chart above says.

                                Any ideas? Please?

                                Thanks!

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                                  Colateral @Butch
                                  last edited by Colateral

                                  @Butch Are you using 1.6.11b1? How exactly instantiated lora stack for the GW and the Node? I mean all can yu enumerate all params that you configured for the lora object?

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                                    Butch @Colateral
                                    last edited by

                                    @Colateral Thanks for your reply. My post below provides all the answers to the questions you asked. Not only does it have the version number of the firmware that I'm using, it also has all the code for both the node and the gateway.

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                                      fbt @Roberto
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi @Roberto , in case i wanted to support more than 2 nodes, i.e 8 nodes, which parameters should i modify on the gateway code?. thanks

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                                        fbt @gouao
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi @gouao, did you get any answer about the compatibility of seeeduino lorawan and lopy? thanks

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                                          gouao @fbt
                                          last edited by

                                          @fbt hello mate, unfortunately i could't get any informations concerning this..
                                          If you find out something please let me know !

                                          All the best!

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                                            fbt @gouao
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks @gouao ... any reply about this issue @jmarcelino ? thanks

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