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    • robert-hhR Offline
      robert-hh @jimpower
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      @jimpower Code and exact sensor product name would be helpful. I found a data sheet telling that the longest response string is 80 bytes. That should not be a problem with the UART. The Rx buffer length is set to 512 bytes.

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        jimpower @robert-hh
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        @robert-hh

        I'm using an Enviropro EP100G-12 which has 12 rows of sensors at 10cm intervals, each row contains a temp, moisture and ec sensor.

        http://enviroprosoilprobes.com/Files/EnviroPro_SDI-12_CommandsV2.pdf

        http://enviroprosoilprobes.com/Files/EnviroPro_EPCU_User_ManualV3.pdf

        import network
        import time
        import pycom
        import machine
        import gc
        import socket
        import utime
        from machine import RTC
        from machine import ADC
        from machine import Pin
        from machine import UART
        from network import LoRa
        
        execfile('/flash/Network/LoRa.py')
        
        f_device = open('/flash/Config/Device_Details.txt', 'r')
        
        device_setting = f_device.readline()
        device_strings = [i.strip() for i in device_setting.split(',')]
        f_device.close()
        
        pycom.heartbeat(False)
        rtc = RTC()
        adc = ADC()
        lora = LoRa()
        uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
        p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
        p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
        
        
        def SDI12(cmd):
            uart.deinit()
            p_tx.value(0)
            p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
            utime.sleep_us(14000)                                                   # send BREAK
            p_tx.value(1)
            utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
            uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
            uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
            utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
            p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
            line = uart.read(75)                                                   # read data from UART
            return line;
        
        time.sleep(2)
        
        while True:
            batt = adc.channel(attn=1, pin='P16')
            #s = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
            #s.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 5)
            #s.setblocking(True)
            #s.send("Battery Status : " + str(batt.value()) + " mV")
            #s.setblocking(False)
            print('--------------------------------')
            print("Battery Status     : " + str(batt.value()) + " mV")
            print('--------------------------------')
        ##########################################################
        #                   Measure Temperature                  #
        ##########################################################
            utime.sleep(2)
            line = SDI12('?!')              #Wake Up Sensor
            print(line)                     #Print Sensor Response
            utime.sleep(3)                  #Wait before Next Cmd
            line = SDI12('0C2!')            #Probe Temp Measure
            print(line)                     #Print Time/Sensors
            utime.sleep(5)                  #Wait before Next Cmd
            data = SDI12('0D0!')            #Probe Temp Readings
            print(data)                     #Print Temp Readings
            #utime.sleep(10)
            #data = SDI12('0D1!')            #Probe Temp Readings
            #print(data)                     #Print Temp Readings
        
        ##########################################################
        #                     Garbage Collect                    #
        ##########################################################
            gc.enable()
            gc.collect()
            print("Sensor Memory Free : " + str(gc.mem_free()))
            time.sleep(30)```
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        • robert-hhR Offline
          robert-hh @jimpower
          last edited by

          @jimpower Thanks. The code looks principly OK. What happens if you increase the receive timeout?

          The documentation of the product is weird. Why cannot they include a proper protocol definition? Did you see b.t.w. CR/LF transmitted at the end of response messages?

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            jimpower @robert-hh
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            @robert-hh

            yes it says technical document "coming soon"

            here is a snippet of my uart.readline()

            0_1525864184011_ddb7c828-d942-44ba-9bc5-e1cc5bd7501c-image.png

            Do you think this timeout_chars is correct? I wasn't sure what to put in here.

            uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)```
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              robert-hh @jimpower
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              @jimpower SInce the length of the response is not known, you need astrategy to tell when the respons eis complete:

              • either the response has a known terminal symbol, like ! in the command, or \r\n, then you can read until you see that symbol, and wait as second condition for a long timeout. Waitung for \r\n is done by uart.readline().
              • or you have to wait for a timeout.
                The 75 char timeout seems reasonable, but to sort out implementation errors in Micropython, you could increase that for testing and see, if you receive a longer message. Thre reason I ask is, taht I faintly remember some discussion around the rx timeout of uart.read.
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                jimpower @robert-hh
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                @robert-hh I'm not sure what happened but I changed my code back to the way it was before playing around with break times, uart timeout etc and it works.
                A note for anyone wanting to interface with SDI-12 with a LoPy you need to perform a gc.collect() after every read and then wait for 30secs before you can read from any other sensors.
                @robert-hh thanks for your help with this it was pivotal to getting a working SDI-12 interface.
                @AntonioValente thanks for your initial concept which lead to this solution.

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                  Bryan Hom @jimpower
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                  @jimpower I know this is an old thread but where are you getting the 1.8V ref from?

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                    robert-hh @Bryan Hom
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                    @Bryan-Hom Yuo can use a small voltage regulator and derive it from 3.3V. If

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                      Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                      last edited by

                      @robert-hh Thank you. 1 other question, am i looking at the diagram correctly that the 1.8V + should also be tied in with the 3.3v line? Wouldn't that mean the voltage going into A is 3.3V?

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                        robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                        last edited by robert-hh

                        @Bryan-Hom That's looks wrong. You can consider the 1.8V source as a function block with 3.3V/GND as input and 1.8v/GND as output.

                        I tried also some other circuits for a SDI-12 connection, but never connected them to real sensors. https://forum.pycom.io/topic/4827/teros-12-and-sdi-12?_=1640181173389

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                          Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                          last edited by Bryan Hom

                          @robert-hh Thanks, so it should actually look more like this? pycom SDI-12 schematic.png

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                            robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                            last edited by

                            @Bryan-Hom Yes.

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                                Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                                last edited by Bryan Hom

                                @robert-hh

                                Hi Robert, you seem to be the right person to be asking these questions to, but im using @jimpower's code and i followed the drawing exactly, but i cannot seem to get any reply from the sensor. Probing around my setup it looks like i have all the grounds properly connected, 5v going into to A. I made sure to put the 10k resistor between the 3.3v and the pin 4 (rx) of the pycom. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm trying to read SDI-12 from a Campbell Scientific AVW200 https://s.campbellsci.com/documents/es/manuals/avw200 - 772.pdf Thank you

                                import network
                                import time
                                import pycom
                                import machine
                                import gc
                                import socket
                                import utime
                                from machine import RTC
                                from machine import ADC
                                from machine import Pin
                                from machine import UART
                                
                                
                                pycom.heartbeat(False)
                                rtc = RTC()
                                adc = ADC()
                                #lora = LoRa()
                                uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                
                                
                                
                                def SDI12(cmd):
                                    uart.deinit()
                                    p_tx.value(0)
                                    p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                                    utime.sleep_us(12500)                                                   # send BREAK
                                    p_tx.value(1)
                                    utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                                    uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                    uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                                    utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                               # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                    p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                                    line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                                    return line;
                                
                                time.sleep(2)
                                
                                while True:
                                
                                ##########################################################
                                #                   Measure Temperature                  #
                                ##########################################################
                                    utime.sleep(2)
                                    command = SDI12('V!')
                                    utime.sleep(10)
                                    print(command)                  #Print Sensor Response
                                    utime.sleep(2)
                                    command2 = SDI12('0V!')
                                    utime.sleep(10)
                                    print(command2)
                                
                                ##########################################################
                                #                     Garbage Collect                    #
                                ##########################################################
                                    gc.enable()
                                    gc.collect()
                                    print("Sensor Memory Free : " + str(gc.mem_free()))
                                    time.sleep(15)```
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                                  robert-hh @Bryan Hom
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                                  @Bryan-Hom Sorry, I misread you diagram. Pin A has to be at a level between 0 and 3.3 V, like 1.8 V in the first diagram. You asked from where to get it, I recommended an 1.8V regulator which in turn gets it power from 5V or 3.3V. For a fist test, you should also be able to use a 1.5V battery.

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                                    Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                                    last edited by Bryan Hom

                                    @robert-hh Thank you! i rigged up the battery and got the response. I also just tried used a DAC output on Pin22 set at 55% which is roughly 1.77V and it seems to work as well without any special power supply

                                    dac = machine.DAC('P22') # create a DAC object
                                    dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V

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                                      Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @Bryan Hom
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                                      @Bryan-Hom @robert-hh Hello, I've tried the program and do the wiring diagram like this 92a9ee9c-f47d-4a66-96b2-67919c736a7d-image.png
                                      but it still can't seem to get any reply from the sensor. c21d09b0-2608-4452-8b97-02c0342612fa-image.png ,

                                      here is my program

                                      import utime
                                      from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                                      # from machine import UART
                                      
                                      uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                      p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                      p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                      pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                      dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                                      
                                      
                                      def SDI12(cmd):
                                          uart.deinit()
                                          p_tx.value(0)
                                          p_dir.value(1)        # set output dir
                                          utime.sleep_us(12800)  # send BREAK
                                          p_tx.value(1)
                                          utime.sleep_us(8333)   # send MARK
                                          uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                          uart.write(cmd)       # send command
                                          utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))  # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                          p_dir.value(0)    # output set to read
                                          line = uart.readline()      # read data from UART
                                          return line;
                                      
                                      while True:
                                          print("reading")
                                          pin12.value(1)
                                          dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                                          utime.sleep(2)
                                          line = SDI12("?!")
                                          utime.sleep(3)
                                          print(line)
                                          # pin12.value(0)
                                          utime.sleep(10)
                                      

                                      I need your help to fix it, Thank you

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                                        robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                        @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya Compqring with the port of the previous poster, you use different pins for p_tx. In the previous post, p_tx is the same a UART 1 TX, and that is by intention.

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                                          Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                          @robert-hh @Bryan-Hom Hello, I've updated the program like this

                                          import utime
                                          from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                                          # from machine import UART
                                          
                                          # uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200, pins=('P10','P11'))
                                          uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                          p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                          # p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                          p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                          # pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                          dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                                          
                                          
                                          def SDI12(cmd):
                                              uart.deinit()
                                              p_tx.value(0)
                                              p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                                              # utime.sleep_us(12800)                                                   # send BREAK
                                              utime.sleep_us(14000)
                                              p_tx.value(1)
                                              utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                                              uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                              uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                                              utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                              # p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                                              line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                                              return line;
                                          
                                          while True:
                                              print("reading")
                                              # pin12.value(1)
                                              dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                                              utime.sleep(2)
                                              line = SDI12('?!')
                                              utime.sleep(3)
                                              print(line)
                                              # line = SDI12('0M!')
                                              # utime.sleep(3)
                                              # print(line)
                                              # pin12.value(0)
                                              utime.sleep(10)
                                          
                                          

                                          but the response is still "none", and I use rs485 module like this (max485) bcd18c97-3ffa-42df-b85e-63e4417f9e9f-image.png
                                          1831e2ea-b977-4ccc-969c-5d53ee43aff6-image.png

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                                            robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                            @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya As far I see it, the chip has both transmit enable DE and receive enable /RE. For Transmit, the DE has to be high, for receive, the /RE has to be low. Unless you have an inverter connected between DE and /RE, you have to control both in software.

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