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      jimpower @robert-hh
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      @robert-hh I am getting responses from the SDI-12 Probe now, the reading of the sensors is working I just can't get the full read (maybe due to the size of it) could you help me to understand how to increase the buffer size to get all readings. Please see below the commands and their expected responses.

      This works correctly

      CMD - '?!' (Probe Address)
      RES - '0'

      This works correctly

      CMD - '02C' (Take Temp Reading)
      RES - '000312' (1-4 is the time taken to read sensors 5-6 is the amount of sensors read)

      This doesn't show all readings

      CMD - '0D0' (Show Temp Readings first 8 sensors)
      RES - '0+028.12+027.24+027.03+026.78+026.65+025.45+023.34+021.21' (temp readings after each +0)
      ***Only some of the readings show I have never been able to get more then 6 show at a time.

      This doesn't seem to work yet

      CMD - '0D1' (Show temp readings last 4 sensors)
      RES - '0+028.12+027.24+027.03+026.78'

      Hopefully it is just a buffer size issue and the payload is not too large.

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        robert-hh @jimpower
        last edited by

        @jimpower Code and exact sensor product name would be helpful. I found a data sheet telling that the longest response string is 80 bytes. That should not be a problem with the UART. The Rx buffer length is set to 512 bytes.

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          jimpower @robert-hh
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          @robert-hh

          I'm using an Enviropro EP100G-12 which has 12 rows of sensors at 10cm intervals, each row contains a temp, moisture and ec sensor.

          http://enviroprosoilprobes.com/Files/EnviroPro_SDI-12_CommandsV2.pdf

          http://enviroprosoilprobes.com/Files/EnviroPro_EPCU_User_ManualV3.pdf

          import network
          import time
          import pycom
          import machine
          import gc
          import socket
          import utime
          from machine import RTC
          from machine import ADC
          from machine import Pin
          from machine import UART
          from network import LoRa
          
          execfile('/flash/Network/LoRa.py')
          
          f_device = open('/flash/Config/Device_Details.txt', 'r')
          
          device_setting = f_device.readline()
          device_strings = [i.strip() for i in device_setting.split(',')]
          f_device.close()
          
          pycom.heartbeat(False)
          rtc = RTC()
          adc = ADC()
          lora = LoRa()
          uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
          p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
          p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
          
          
          def SDI12(cmd):
              uart.deinit()
              p_tx.value(0)
              p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
              utime.sleep_us(14000)                                                   # send BREAK
              p_tx.value(1)
              utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
              uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
              uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
              utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
              p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
              line = uart.read(75)                                                   # read data from UART
              return line;
          
          time.sleep(2)
          
          while True:
              batt = adc.channel(attn=1, pin='P16')
              #s = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
              #s.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 5)
              #s.setblocking(True)
              #s.send("Battery Status : " + str(batt.value()) + " mV")
              #s.setblocking(False)
              print('--------------------------------')
              print("Battery Status     : " + str(batt.value()) + " mV")
              print('--------------------------------')
          ##########################################################
          #                   Measure Temperature                  #
          ##########################################################
              utime.sleep(2)
              line = SDI12('?!')              #Wake Up Sensor
              print(line)                     #Print Sensor Response
              utime.sleep(3)                  #Wait before Next Cmd
              line = SDI12('0C2!')            #Probe Temp Measure
              print(line)                     #Print Time/Sensors
              utime.sleep(5)                  #Wait before Next Cmd
              data = SDI12('0D0!')            #Probe Temp Readings
              print(data)                     #Print Temp Readings
              #utime.sleep(10)
              #data = SDI12('0D1!')            #Probe Temp Readings
              #print(data)                     #Print Temp Readings
          
          ##########################################################
          #                     Garbage Collect                    #
          ##########################################################
              gc.enable()
              gc.collect()
              print("Sensor Memory Free : " + str(gc.mem_free()))
              time.sleep(30)```
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            robert-hh @jimpower
            last edited by

            @jimpower Thanks. The code looks principly OK. What happens if you increase the receive timeout?

            The documentation of the product is weird. Why cannot they include a proper protocol definition? Did you see b.t.w. CR/LF transmitted at the end of response messages?

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              jimpower @robert-hh
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              @robert-hh

              yes it says technical document "coming soon"

              here is a snippet of my uart.readline()

              0_1525864184011_ddb7c828-d942-44ba-9bc5-e1cc5bd7501c-image.png

              Do you think this timeout_chars is correct? I wasn't sure what to put in here.

              uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)```
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                robert-hh @jimpower
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                @jimpower SInce the length of the response is not known, you need astrategy to tell when the respons eis complete:

                • either the response has a known terminal symbol, like ! in the command, or \r\n, then you can read until you see that symbol, and wait as second condition for a long timeout. Waitung for \r\n is done by uart.readline().
                • or you have to wait for a timeout.
                  The 75 char timeout seems reasonable, but to sort out implementation errors in Micropython, you could increase that for testing and see, if you receive a longer message. Thre reason I ask is, taht I faintly remember some discussion around the rx timeout of uart.read.
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                  jimpower @robert-hh
                  last edited by

                  @robert-hh I'm not sure what happened but I changed my code back to the way it was before playing around with break times, uart timeout etc and it works.
                  A note for anyone wanting to interface with SDI-12 with a LoPy you need to perform a gc.collect() after every read and then wait for 30secs before you can read from any other sensors.
                  @robert-hh thanks for your help with this it was pivotal to getting a working SDI-12 interface.
                  @AntonioValente thanks for your initial concept which lead to this solution.

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                    Bryan Hom @jimpower
                    last edited by

                    @jimpower I know this is an old thread but where are you getting the 1.8V ref from?

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                      robert-hh @Bryan Hom
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                      @Bryan-Hom Yuo can use a small voltage regulator and derive it from 3.3V. If

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                        Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                        last edited by

                        @robert-hh Thank you. 1 other question, am i looking at the diagram correctly that the 1.8V + should also be tied in with the 3.3v line? Wouldn't that mean the voltage going into A is 3.3V?

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                          robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                          last edited by robert-hh

                          @Bryan-Hom That's looks wrong. You can consider the 1.8V source as a function block with 3.3V/GND as input and 1.8v/GND as output.

                          I tried also some other circuits for a SDI-12 connection, but never connected them to real sensors. https://forum.pycom.io/topic/4827/teros-12-and-sdi-12?_=1640181173389

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                            Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                            last edited by Bryan Hom

                            @robert-hh Thanks, so it should actually look more like this? pycom SDI-12 schematic.png

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                              robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                              last edited by

                              @Bryan-Hom Yes.

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                                Bryan Hom @jimpower
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                                  Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                                  last edited by Bryan Hom

                                  @robert-hh

                                  Hi Robert, you seem to be the right person to be asking these questions to, but im using @jimpower's code and i followed the drawing exactly, but i cannot seem to get any reply from the sensor. Probing around my setup it looks like i have all the grounds properly connected, 5v going into to A. I made sure to put the 10k resistor between the 3.3v and the pin 4 (rx) of the pycom. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm trying to read SDI-12 from a Campbell Scientific AVW200 https://s.campbellsci.com/documents/es/manuals/avw200 - 772.pdf Thank you

                                  import network
                                  import time
                                  import pycom
                                  import machine
                                  import gc
                                  import socket
                                  import utime
                                  from machine import RTC
                                  from machine import ADC
                                  from machine import Pin
                                  from machine import UART
                                  
                                  
                                  pycom.heartbeat(False)
                                  rtc = RTC()
                                  adc = ADC()
                                  #lora = LoRa()
                                  uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                  p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                  p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                  
                                  
                                  
                                  def SDI12(cmd):
                                      uart.deinit()
                                      p_tx.value(0)
                                      p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                                      utime.sleep_us(12500)                                                   # send BREAK
                                      p_tx.value(1)
                                      utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                                      uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                      uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                                      utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                               # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                      p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                                      line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                                      return line;
                                  
                                  time.sleep(2)
                                  
                                  while True:
                                  
                                  ##########################################################
                                  #                   Measure Temperature                  #
                                  ##########################################################
                                      utime.sleep(2)
                                      command = SDI12('V!')
                                      utime.sleep(10)
                                      print(command)                  #Print Sensor Response
                                      utime.sleep(2)
                                      command2 = SDI12('0V!')
                                      utime.sleep(10)
                                      print(command2)
                                  
                                  ##########################################################
                                  #                     Garbage Collect                    #
                                  ##########################################################
                                      gc.enable()
                                      gc.collect()
                                      print("Sensor Memory Free : " + str(gc.mem_free()))
                                      time.sleep(15)```
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                                    robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                                    last edited by

                                    @Bryan-Hom Sorry, I misread you diagram. Pin A has to be at a level between 0 and 3.3 V, like 1.8 V in the first diagram. You asked from where to get it, I recommended an 1.8V regulator which in turn gets it power from 5V or 3.3V. For a fist test, you should also be able to use a 1.5V battery.

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                                      Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                                      last edited by Bryan Hom

                                      @robert-hh Thank you! i rigged up the battery and got the response. I also just tried used a DAC output on Pin22 set at 55% which is roughly 1.77V and it seems to work as well without any special power supply

                                      dac = machine.DAC('P22') # create a DAC object
                                      dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V

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                                        Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @Bryan Hom
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                                        @Bryan-Hom @robert-hh Hello, I've tried the program and do the wiring diagram like this 92a9ee9c-f47d-4a66-96b2-67919c736a7d-image.png
                                        but it still can't seem to get any reply from the sensor. c21d09b0-2608-4452-8b97-02c0342612fa-image.png ,

                                        here is my program

                                        import utime
                                        from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                                        # from machine import UART
                                        
                                        uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                        p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                        p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                        pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                        dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                                        
                                        
                                        def SDI12(cmd):
                                            uart.deinit()
                                            p_tx.value(0)
                                            p_dir.value(1)        # set output dir
                                            utime.sleep_us(12800)  # send BREAK
                                            p_tx.value(1)
                                            utime.sleep_us(8333)   # send MARK
                                            uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                            uart.write(cmd)       # send command
                                            utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))  # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                            p_dir.value(0)    # output set to read
                                            line = uart.readline()      # read data from UART
                                            return line;
                                        
                                        while True:
                                            print("reading")
                                            pin12.value(1)
                                            dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                                            utime.sleep(2)
                                            line = SDI12("?!")
                                            utime.sleep(3)
                                            print(line)
                                            # pin12.value(0)
                                            utime.sleep(10)
                                        

                                        I need your help to fix it, Thank you

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                                          robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                          @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya Compqring with the port of the previous poster, you use different pins for p_tx. In the previous post, p_tx is the same a UART 1 TX, and that is by intention.

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                                            Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                            @robert-hh @Bryan-Hom Hello, I've updated the program like this

                                            import utime
                                            from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                                            # from machine import UART
                                            
                                            # uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200, pins=('P10','P11'))
                                            uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                            p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                            # p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                            p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                            # pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                            dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                                            
                                            
                                            def SDI12(cmd):
                                                uart.deinit()
                                                p_tx.value(0)
                                                p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                                                # utime.sleep_us(12800)                                                   # send BREAK
                                                utime.sleep_us(14000)
                                                p_tx.value(1)
                                                utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                                                uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                                uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                                                utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                                # p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                                                line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                                                return line;
                                            
                                            while True:
                                                print("reading")
                                                # pin12.value(1)
                                                dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                                                utime.sleep(2)
                                                line = SDI12('?!')
                                                utime.sleep(3)
                                                print(line)
                                                # line = SDI12('0M!')
                                                # utime.sleep(3)
                                                # print(line)
                                                # pin12.value(0)
                                                utime.sleep(10)
                                            
                                            

                                            but the response is still "none", and I use rs485 module like this (max485) bcd18c97-3ffa-42df-b85e-63e4417f9e9f-image.png
                                            1831e2ea-b977-4ccc-969c-5d53ee43aff6-image.png

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