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      Bryan Hom @robert-hh
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      @robert-hh Thank you. 1 other question, am i looking at the diagram correctly that the 1.8V + should also be tied in with the 3.3v line? Wouldn't that mean the voltage going into A is 3.3V?

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        robert-hh @Bryan Hom
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        @Bryan-Hom That's looks wrong. You can consider the 1.8V source as a function block with 3.3V/GND as input and 1.8v/GND as output.

        I tried also some other circuits for a SDI-12 connection, but never connected them to real sensors. https://forum.pycom.io/topic/4827/teros-12-and-sdi-12?_=1640181173389

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          Bryan Hom @robert-hh
          last edited by Bryan Hom

          @robert-hh Thanks, so it should actually look more like this? pycom SDI-12 schematic.png

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            robert-hh @Bryan Hom
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            @Bryan-Hom Yes.

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              Bryan Hom @jimpower
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                Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                last edited by Bryan Hom

                @robert-hh

                Hi Robert, you seem to be the right person to be asking these questions to, but im using @jimpower's code and i followed the drawing exactly, but i cannot seem to get any reply from the sensor. Probing around my setup it looks like i have all the grounds properly connected, 5v going into to A. I made sure to put the 10k resistor between the 3.3v and the pin 4 (rx) of the pycom. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm trying to read SDI-12 from a Campbell Scientific AVW200 https://s.campbellsci.com/documents/es/manuals/avw200 - 772.pdf Thank you

                import network
                import time
                import pycom
                import machine
                import gc
                import socket
                import utime
                from machine import RTC
                from machine import ADC
                from machine import Pin
                from machine import UART
                
                
                pycom.heartbeat(False)
                rtc = RTC()
                adc = ADC()
                #lora = LoRa()
                uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                
                
                
                def SDI12(cmd):
                    uart.deinit()
                    p_tx.value(0)
                    p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                    utime.sleep_us(12500)                                                   # send BREAK
                    p_tx.value(1)
                    utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                    uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                    uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                    utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                               # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                    p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                    line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                    return line;
                
                time.sleep(2)
                
                while True:
                
                ##########################################################
                #                   Measure Temperature                  #
                ##########################################################
                    utime.sleep(2)
                    command = SDI12('V!')
                    utime.sleep(10)
                    print(command)                  #Print Sensor Response
                    utime.sleep(2)
                    command2 = SDI12('0V!')
                    utime.sleep(10)
                    print(command2)
                
                ##########################################################
                #                     Garbage Collect                    #
                ##########################################################
                    gc.enable()
                    gc.collect()
                    print("Sensor Memory Free : " + str(gc.mem_free()))
                    time.sleep(15)```
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                  robert-hh @Bryan Hom
                  last edited by

                  @Bryan-Hom Sorry, I misread you diagram. Pin A has to be at a level between 0 and 3.3 V, like 1.8 V in the first diagram. You asked from where to get it, I recommended an 1.8V regulator which in turn gets it power from 5V or 3.3V. For a fist test, you should also be able to use a 1.5V battery.

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                    Bryan Hom @robert-hh
                    last edited by Bryan Hom

                    @robert-hh Thank you! i rigged up the battery and got the response. I also just tried used a DAC output on Pin22 set at 55% which is roughly 1.77V and it seems to work as well without any special power supply

                    dac = machine.DAC('P22') # create a DAC object
                    dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V

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                      Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @Bryan Hom
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                      @Bryan-Hom @robert-hh Hello, I've tried the program and do the wiring diagram like this 92a9ee9c-f47d-4a66-96b2-67919c736a7d-image.png
                      but it still can't seem to get any reply from the sensor. c21d09b0-2608-4452-8b97-02c0342612fa-image.png ,

                      here is my program

                      import utime
                      from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                      # from machine import UART
                      
                      uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                      p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                      p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                      pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                      dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                      
                      
                      def SDI12(cmd):
                          uart.deinit()
                          p_tx.value(0)
                          p_dir.value(1)        # set output dir
                          utime.sleep_us(12800)  # send BREAK
                          p_tx.value(1)
                          utime.sleep_us(8333)   # send MARK
                          uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                          uart.write(cmd)       # send command
                          utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))  # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                          p_dir.value(0)    # output set to read
                          line = uart.readline()      # read data from UART
                          return line;
                      
                      while True:
                          print("reading")
                          pin12.value(1)
                          dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                          utime.sleep(2)
                          line = SDI12("?!")
                          utime.sleep(3)
                          print(line)
                          # pin12.value(0)
                          utime.sleep(10)
                      

                      I need your help to fix it, Thank you

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                        robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                        @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya Compqring with the port of the previous poster, you use different pins for p_tx. In the previous post, p_tx is the same a UART 1 TX, and that is by intention.

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                          Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
                          last edited by

                          @robert-hh @Bryan-Hom Hello, I've updated the program like this

                          import utime
                          from machine import Pin, UART, DAC
                          # from machine import UART
                          
                          # uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200, pins=('P10','P11'))
                          uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                          p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                          # p_tx = Pin('P10', mode=Pin.OUT)
                          p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT)
                          # pin12 = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                          dac = DAC('P21') # create a DAC object
                          
                          
                          def SDI12(cmd):
                              uart.deinit()
                              p_tx.value(0)
                              p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                              # utime.sleep_us(12800)                                                   # send BREAK
                              utime.sleep_us(14000)
                              p_tx.value(1)
                              utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                              uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                              uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                              utime.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                              # p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                              line = uart.readline()                                                  # read data from UART
                              return line;
                          
                          while True:
                              print("reading")
                              # pin12.value(1)
                              dac.write(0.55) # set output to 55% ~1.77V
                              utime.sleep(2)
                              line = SDI12('?!')
                              utime.sleep(3)
                              print(line)
                              # line = SDI12('0M!')
                              # utime.sleep(3)
                              # print(line)
                              # pin12.value(0)
                              utime.sleep(10)
                          
                          

                          but the response is still "none", and I use rs485 module like this (max485) bcd18c97-3ffa-42df-b85e-63e4417f9e9f-image.png
                          1831e2ea-b977-4ccc-969c-5d53ee43aff6-image.png

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                            robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                            @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya As far I see it, the chip has both transmit enable DE and receive enable /RE. For Transmit, the DE has to be high, for receive, the /RE has to be low. Unless you have an inverter connected between DE and /RE, you have to control both in software.

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                              Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @robert-hh
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                              @robert-hh I've followed the wiring by @AntonioValente's reply in https://forum.pycom.io/topic/1924/sdi-12/6 he uses SN65HVD1780 chip that has same pinout as MAX485.

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                                robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
                                last edited by

                                @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya But still you have to control both DE and /RE. You code seems to control only one of them.

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                                  Bryan Hom @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya

                                  Here is my code. You may also have issues with your board. i would recommend the sp3485 chip as that is what i am using

                                  def SDI12(cmd):
                                      uart = UART(1, baudrate=1200)
                                      p_tx = Pin('P3', mode=Pin.OUT)
                                      p_dir = Pin('P11', mode=Pin.OUT) #RTS pin on rs485 breakout board
                                      dac = machine.DAC('P22')        # create a DAC object for rs485 board to be used as reference voltage for terminal A
                                      dac.write(0.50)   # set output to 50% ~1.59V Note: if this voltage output is greater than 1.77, the sensor will no longer read
                                  
                                      uart.deinit()
                                      p_tx.value(0)
                                      p_dir.value(1)                                                          # set output dir
                                      time.sleep_us(12500)                                                   # send BREAK
                                      p_tx.value(1)
                                      utime.sleep_us(8333)                                                    # send MARK
                                      uart.init(1200, bits=7, parity=UART.EVEN, stop=1, timeout_chars=75)     # init with given parameters
                                      uart.write(cmd)                                                         # send command
                                      time.sleep_us(8333 * len(cmd))                                         # wait to send command (byte time * command lenght)
                                      p_dir.value(0)                                                          # output set to read
                                      line = uart.read()                                                      # read data from UART
                                      return line;```
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                                    robert-hh @Gusti Made Arya Wijaya
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                                    @Gusti-Made-Arya-Wijaya Did you connect both /RE and DE to the p_dir Pin?

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                                      Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @robert-hh
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                                      @robert-hh yes I did

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                                        Gusti Made Arya Wijaya @Bryan Hom
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                                        @Bryan-Hom oh okay thanks for your advice. I only have max485 and max3485 now

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