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    • R Offline
      rvandam
      last edited by

      Thank you for these examples!

      Could you add a print(msg) in the gateway code?

      It is more consistent with the previous example, and you know quicker that it works (should have started after the coffee this morning :-) )

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        gouao
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          Butch
          last edited by

          I've tried the examples, but I am not having any success. The gateway is not receiving any messages with length > 0. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other LoRa devices in use, and I am using only one gateway and one node.

          Any suggestions on how to debug this?

          Thanks!

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            gerkez
            last edited by

            Hello Roberto,

            Where do I change the band?
            I don't see it in your scripts

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              Butch @Butch
              last edited by Butch

              @Butch said in LoPy Nano-Gateway Extended (Timeout and Retry):

              I've tried the examples, but I am not having any success. The gateway is not receiving any messages with length > 0. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other LoRa devices in use, and I am using only one gateway and one node.

              Any suggestions on how to debug this?

              Thanks!

              Following up on my own post (poor form, I know, but what to do?), I thought I'd provide more information:

              • I am trying to use one LoPy on an expansion board with antenna as a gateway, and one with the same setup as a node.
              • I am running this code on the gateway (http://pastebin.com/PDCnq2gF) and this on the node (http://pastebin.com/Ztf5QMWY).
              • I am seeing constant messages of zero length being received on the gateway:
              Starting LoRaNanoGateway
              Received message, length = 0
              Received message, length = 0
              Received message, length = 0
              Received message, length = 0
              Received message, length = 0
              Received message, length = 0
              
              • I am seeing no acknowledgements on the node:
              Starting LoRaNanoNode on device 1
              Sending a message from device 1
              MESSAGE FAILED
              Sending a message from device 1
              MESSAGE FAILED
              Sending a message from device 1
              MESSAGE FAILED
              Sending a message from device 1
              MESSAGE FAILED
              

              I have tried four different LoPy's in two different physical locations, so I don't think I'm having any RF pollution issues.

              I could really use some help with this.

              Thanks!

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                bucknall @Butch
                last edited by

                Hi @Butch

                There's previously was a small bug in the gateway and node code where you need to specify the spread factor (e.g. sf=7).

                This has since been patched in the latest firmware release, please try to update your device and your code should now work!

                Cheers!

                Developer Evangelist - Pycom

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                  Butch @bucknall
                  last edited by

                  @bucknall said in LoPy Nano-Gateway Extended (Timeout and Retry):

                  Hi @Butch

                  There's previously was a small bug in the gateway and node code where you need to specify the spread factor (e.g. sf=7).

                  This has since been patched in the latest firmware release, please try to update your device and your code should now work!

                  Cheers!

                  It works! Thank you so much!

                  Butch

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                    Colateral @Roberto
                    last edited by

                    @Roberto Doesn't work anymore with. Simply GW not getting the message.

                    (sysname='LoPy', nodename='LoPy', release='1.6.10.b1', version='v1.8.6-556-g989d5ac9 on 2017-03-30', machine='LoPy with ESP32', lorawan='1.0.0')

                    Any ideas why?

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                      Butch @bucknall
                      last edited by Butch

                      @bucknall Alex, I'll share my current issue here so that hopefully others can benefit from my stupidity. :-)

                      I have the sample code above working. The node and gateway properly exchange message/ACK. The message being sent from the node is

                      DEVICE 1 HERE
                      

                      To make this more useful, I want to change the message to some JSON reporting a temperature:

                      {"id": 1, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}
                      

                      However, this fails. But it fails in a completely unexpected way. On the gateway:

                      recv_pkg = lora_sock.recv(512)
                      

                      constantly receives zero-length packets. All I did was change the message being sent. I did not change the header, nor the struct. If I had a malformed header or payload, I would expect the recv to at least get something with a length greater than zero bytes.

                      Complete sample code for gateway:

                      #
                      # LoRaNanoGateway.py
                      #
                      
                      import socket
                      import struct
                      from network import LoRa
                      import time
                      
                      # A basic package header
                      # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                      # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                      # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                      # %ds: Formated string for string
                      _LORA_PKG_FORMAT = "!BBB%ds"
                      
                      # A basic ack package
                      # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                      # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                      # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                      # B: 1 byte for the Ok (200) or error messages
                      _LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT = "BBBB"
                      
                      # Let the world know we're starting up.
                      
                      print("Starting LoRaNanoGateway")
                      
                      # Open a Lora Socket, use rx_iq to avoid listening to our own messages
                      lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORA, frequency=915000000, rx_iq=True)
                      lora_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                      lora_sock.setblocking(False)
                      
                      while (True):
                      
                          # Since the maximum body size in the protocol is 255 the request is limited to 512 bytes
                          recv_pkg = lora_sock.recv(512)
                          print("Received message, length = %d" % len(recv_pkg))
                      
                          # If at least a message with the header is received process it
                          if (len(recv_pkg) > 3):
                              print("<<<<<<<<<<<<< Received VALID message, length = %d" % len(recv_pkg))
                      
                              recv_pkg_len = recv_pkg[1]
                      
                              # If message is corrupted should not continue processing
                              if (not len(recv_pkg) == recv_pkg_len + 3):
                                  continue
                      
                              # Unpack the message based on the protocol definition
                              device_id, pkg_len, msg_id, msg = struct.unpack(_LORA_PKG_FORMAT % recv_pkg_len, recv_pkg)
                      
                              # Respond to the device with an acknowledge package
                              # time.sleep(0.15)
                              print("+++ Received a message: %s" % msg)
                              ack_pkg = struct.pack(_LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT, device_id, 1, msg_id, 200)
                              print("------ Sending an ACK")
                              lora_sock.send(ack_pkg)
                      
                              # Do any extra processing required for the package. Keep in mind it should be as fast as posible
                              # to make sure that the other clients are not waiting too long for their messages to be acknoleged
                      

                      Complete sample code for node:

                      #
                      # LoRaNanoNode.py
                      #
                      
                      import os
                      import socket
                      import time
                      import struct
                      from network import LoRa
                      from uos import urandom
                      
                      # A basic package header
                      # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                      # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                      # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                      # %ds: Formated string for string
                      _LORA_PKG_FORMAT = "!BBB%ds"
                      
                      # A basic ack package
                      # B: 1 byte for the deviceId
                      # B: 1 byte for the pkg size
                      # B: 1 byte for the messageId
                      # B: 1 byte for the Ok (200) or error messages
                      _LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT = "BBBB"
                      
                      # This device ID, use different device id for each device
                      _DEVICE_ID = 0x01
                      _MAX_ACK_TIME = 5000
                      _RETRY_COUNT = 3
                      
                      # Let the world know we're starting up.
                      
                      print("Starting LoRaNanoNode on device %d" % _DEVICE_ID)
                      
                      # Open a Lora Socket, use tx_iq to avoid listening to our own messages
                      lora = LoRa(mode=LoRa.LORA, frequency=915000000, tx_iq=True)
                      lora_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_LORA, socket.SOCK_RAW)
                      lora_sock.setblocking(False)
                      
                      # Method to increase message id and keep in between 1 and 255
                      msg_id = 0
                      def increase_msg_id():
                          global msg_id
                          msg_id = (msg_id + 1) & 0xFF
                      
                      # Method for acknoledge waiting time keep
                      def check_ack_time(from_time):
                          current_time = time.ticks_ms()
                          return (current_time - from_time > _MAX_ACK_TIME)
                      
                      # Method to send messages
                      def send_msg(msg):
                          global msg_id
                          retry = _RETRY_COUNT
                          while (retry > 0 and not retry == -1):
                              retry -= 1
                              pkg = struct.pack(_LORA_PKG_FORMAT % len(msg), _DEVICE_ID, len(msg), msg_id, msg)
                              bytes_sent = lora_sock.send(pkg)
                              print(">>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package %s, length = %d, bytes sent = %d" % (pkg, len(pkg), bytes_sent))
                      
                              # Wait for the response from the server.
                              start_time = time.ticks_ms()
                      
                              while(not check_ack_time(start_time)):
                                  recv_ack = lora_sock.recv(256)
                                  # If a message of the size of the acknoledge message is received
                                  if (len(recv_ack) == 4):
                                      device_id, pkg_len, recv_msg_id, status = struct.unpack(_LORA_PKG_ACK_FORMAT, recv_ack)
                                      if (device_id == _DEVICE_ID and recv_msg_id == msg_id):
                                          if (status == 200):
                                              # Do some code if your message arrived at the central
                                              return True
                                          else:
                                              return False
                              time.sleep_ms(urandom(1)[0] << 2)
                          return False
                      
                      # Main Loop
                      while(True):
                      
                          msg = '{"id": %s, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}' % _DEVICE_ID
                          # msg = "DEVICE %d HERE" % _DEVICE_ID
                      
                          print("Sending a message: %s, length = %d" % (msg, len(msg)))
                      
                          # success = send_msg("DEVICE %d HERE" % _DEVICE_ID)
                          success = send_msg(msg)
                          if (success):
                              print("ACK RECEIVED: %d" % msg_id)
                              increase_msg_id()
                          else:
                              print("MESSAGE FAILED")
                              # Manage the error message
                      #
                      # >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01I\x00{"id": 1, "temperature": -14.3,"unit": "C","time":"14-Apr-2017@21:48:32"}', length = 76
                      # >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01\r\x10DEVICE 1 HERE', length = 16
                      #
                      

                      You can see that I have dumped the raw packed structure, and that it sure looks like it's properly formed. ASCII '\r' corresponds to 13, which is the length of the payload in the original sample message, and ASCII 'I' corresponds to 73, which is the length of the payload in my new message. The device ID in the header is the same, and the message ID shouldn't matter, right?

                      My understanding is that the payload size is limited to 255 bytes, so I don't think I'm running into a space issue.

                      I should also add that I'm running 1.6.8b2 on both boards:

                      >>> import os
                      >>> os.uname()
                      (sysname='LoPy', nodename='LoPy', release='1.6.8.b2', version='v1.8.6-530-gca8bdcbb on 2017-03-21', machine='LoPy with ESP32', lorawan='1.0.0')
                      

                      Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.

                      Thanks!

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                        gouao
                        last edited by

                        Can a seeeduino lorawan communicate with the lopys ?
                        Can it act as a node, wich is recognized by the lopy nano-gateway ?

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                          Butch @Butch
                          last edited by

                          Following up on my own post (which seems to be a theme for me), I discovered that it is, indeed, the length of the payload that's causing the problem. If I limit the payload to 61 bytes (plus a three-byte header), it works:

                          Sending a message: 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901, length = 61
                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01=\x001234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901', length = 64, bytes sent = 64
                          ACK RECEIVED: 0
                          

                          If, however, I increase the length of the payload to 62 bytes (plus a three-byte header), it fails:

                          Sending a message: 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012, length = 62
                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending package b'\x01>\x0012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012', length = 65, bytes sent = 65
                          MESSAGE FAILED
                          

                          Any ideas?

                          Thanks!

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                            Butch @Butch
                            last edited by Butch

                            And, once again replying to my own post, I understand why:

                            LoRa spec:

                            7.2.6 US902-928 Maximum payload size

                            2 The maximum MACPayload size length (M) is given by the following table. It is derived from
                            3 the maximum allowed transmission time at the PHY layer taking into account a possible
                            4 repeater encapsulation. The maximum application payload length in the absence of the
                            5 optional FOpt MAC control field (N) is also given for information only. The value of N might
                            6 be smaller if the FOpt field is not empty:
                            7

                            DataRate       M         N
                            0              19        11
                            1              61        53
                            2              137       129
                            3              250       242
                            4              250       242
                            5:7             Not defined
                            8              41        33
                            9              117       109
                            10             230       222
                            11             230       222
                            12             230       222
                            13             230       222
                            14:15           Not defined
                            

                            So, as you can see, at data rate 1, the maximum payload size is 61 bytes. If I want to send more, I have to increase the data rate.

                            My question now is how do I increase the data rate? Ideally, I'd like to use data rate 3.

                            It looked like I could just do this:

                            lora_sock.setsockopt(socket.SOL_LORA, socket.SO_DR, 3)
                            

                            That code completes with no complaint, but when I make the change on both the node and gateway sides, it does not change the maximum payload size.

                            After playing around with it some more, 4 seems to be the maximum supported, in spite of what the chart above says.

                            Any ideas? Please?

                            Thanks!

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                              Colateral @Butch
                              last edited by Colateral

                              @Butch Are you using 1.6.11b1? How exactly instantiated lora stack for the GW and the Node? I mean all can yu enumerate all params that you configured for the lora object?

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                                Butch @Colateral
                                last edited by

                                @Colateral Thanks for your reply. My post below provides all the answers to the questions you asked. Not only does it have the version number of the firmware that I'm using, it also has all the code for both the node and the gateway.

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                                  fbt @Roberto
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi @Roberto , in case i wanted to support more than 2 nodes, i.e 8 nodes, which parameters should i modify on the gateway code?. thanks

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                                    fbt @gouao
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi @gouao, did you get any answer about the compatibility of seeeduino lorawan and lopy? thanks

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                                      gouao @fbt
                                      last edited by

                                      @fbt hello mate, unfortunately i could't get any informations concerning this..
                                      If you find out something please let me know !

                                      All the best!

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                                        fbt @gouao
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks @gouao ... any reply about this issue @jmarcelino ? thanks

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                                          jmarcelino @fbt
                                          last edited by jmarcelino

                                          @fbt
                                          For a LoRaWAN device you'd usually want to be using https://github.com/pycom/pycom-libraries/tree/master/examples/lorawan-nano-gateway and not the code on the post. This code is for raw LoRa only.

                                          8 devices on the LoRaWAN gateway shouldn't be a problem as long as they don't transmit at the same time.

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                                            heut
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi @Roberto and @Butch

                                            Thank you very much for the interesting discussion. I'm currently trying to get the plain code (node_1.py and nano_gateway.py) working on my LoPy(s), without success so far. I have both updated to the latest Firmware for Switzerland and sitting in an extension board with antennas attached. When running the code respective code on the LoPys, not a single message is delivered and acknowledged. All messages that are received on the gateway node have the size 0.
                                            From time to time the node_1.py LoPy shows a longer LED blink in blue instead of the heartbeat.

                                            Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

                                            Best
                                            heut

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